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Interesting excerpt from Autoweek:<p><I>"Van Buel said Volvo wants to share its engine internally with Ford and other PAG brands.<p>A Ford source was more specific, saying the engine will power the next Land Rover Freelander, which will be named LR2. <p>The LR2 and the Volvo S80, which offers the SI6 engine, share their chassis technology.<p><B>The Ford source also said Jaguar could use the SI6 engine, but with the addition of a turbocharger to distinguish it from Land Rover and Volvo.</B>"</I><p><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060629/FREE/60626012/1041" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/apps/p.../1041</A><p>
 

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Re: No Turbo 3.2L I6 for Volvo? (MagoonR)

Jag usually does superchargers, not turbos. I suspect Jag could supercharge the I6 and Volvo can do light pressure twin turbos.
 

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Re: No Turbo 3.2L I6 for Volvo? (rollie)

Rollie your view makes more sense in the PAG lineup. <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>rollie</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jag usually does superchargers, not turbos. I suspect Jag could supercharge the I6 and Volvo can do light pressure twin turbos.</TD></TR></TABLE>
 

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Re: No Turbo 3.2L I6 for Volvo? (MagoonR)

Jag is working on a supercharged version. Aston may use it as well.<br>Likewise, Volvo IS working on a single turbo version of the SI6.<p>We are at least a year away from seeing that engine.
 

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Re: No Turbo 3.2L I6 for Volvo? (dagovna)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>dagovna</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One small, one big, think sequential!!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No thank you!<br>Been around too many RX-7's w/ the sequential turbos.<br>Dangerous combination.
 

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Re: No Turbo 3.2L I6 for Volvo? (VolvoMax)

Why are sequential turbos dangerous? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: No Turbo 3.2L I6 for Volvo? (bobigski)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bobigski</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why are sequential turbos dangerous? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, in the RX-7 the small turbo spins up ok, but the big one cuts in suddenly and if you are in a corner or other manuever, the car can get away from you.<br>Sequential turbos just aren't smooth.
 

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Re: No Turbo 3.2L I6 for Volvo? (VolvoMax)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>VolvoMax</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Well, in the RX-7 the small turbo spins up ok, but the big one cuts in suddenly and if you are in a corner or other manuever, the car can get away from you.<br>Sequential turbos just aren't smooth.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That was on an early 90's car with a small rotary with no torque. <p>Now, with the computer technology around, it should be a cakewalk. <p>Look at the new VW twincharger. Every review I have read on it says that there is no way you can possibly tell when the turbo takes over for the supercharger, and it is dead smooth. <p>
 

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Re: No Turbo 3.2L I6 for Volvo? (needsdecaf)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>That was on an early 90's car with a small rotary with no torque. <p>Now, with the computer technology around, it should be a cakewalk. <p>Look at the new VW twincharger. Every review I have read on it says that there is no way you can possibly tell when the turbo takes over for the supercharger, and it is dead smooth. <p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Its also a small engine.
 

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Re: No Turbo 3.2L I6 for Volvo? (VolvoMax)

Then VolvoMax you never drove a last generation Toyota Supra 2JA with them. The only reason MANY take them off those cars is that bigger HP gains could be had if done right with a Single Turbo setup they say. But for pure streetable smooth nice solid power the twins (sequential) were nice on the 3.0L six. The Twins were complicated to rework thou. And the singles are cheaper in short term, but in long term expensive to make faster. It was always a trade off in what you wished over what you wanted to spend. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: No Turbo 3.2L I6 for Volvo? (VolvoMax)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>VolvoMax</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its also a small engine.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>and rotary engines are [email protected]!
 

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Re: No Turbo 3.2L I6 for Volvo? (phuz)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>phuz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>and rotary engines are [email protected]!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No, but the VW engine is barely 200hp, while the RX-7 was @ 255 hp.<br>Also, the VW engine is meant for FWD applications
 

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Re: No Turbo 3.2L I6 for Volvo? (Nato740)

Nope, never have driven the previous Supra.<br>I do know that you can get stupid horsepower numbers from those engines. In fairness, the Rx-7's were faster, stock for stock than the Supras were. They also weighed alot less. <br>I still think parallel turbo's are best for smooth driving, ala the T6 engine.<p>The sequential setup may be best for ultimate performance, but please remember Volvo's credo.<br>They simply aren't going to build a car with such a setup.
 

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Re: No Turbo 3.2L I6 for Volvo? (VolvoMax)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>VolvoMax</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jag is working on a supercharged version. Aston may use it as well.<br>Likewise, Volvo IS working on a single turbo version of the SI6.<p>We are at least a year away from seeing that engine.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>A straight six in an Aston? Cool. It's been a while. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>A single turbo for Volvo's I6 makes more sense, I think. On a 3.2, a pair of small turbos seems like they'd start to run out of breath early, in exchange for instant boost at idle. But who needs boost at idle? In the old twin-turbo Audi S4, with a 2.7, the last bit of the torque band fell right off. You'd go faster short-shifting the thing than winding it out.<p>Funny that BMW's new twin-turbo I6 only makes as much power as Volvo's old R 5-cylinder, which has a whole missing 500cc cylinder and only one turbo. I hope the new T6 shames the 330. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: No Turbo 3.2L I6 for Volvo? (asthenia)

Well, remember that the Volvo T6 engine only made 268 hp.<br>Both BMW and Volvo tuned the I6's for low end power.<br>The R is gutless below 3,000 rpm. Whereas the old T6 had full power @ 1800 rpm.
 

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Re: No Turbo 3.2L I6 for Volvo? (asthenia)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>asthenia</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Funny that BMW's new twin-turbo I6 only makes as much power as Volvo's old R 5-cylinder, which has a whole missing 500cc cylinder and only one turbo. I hope the new T6 shames the 330. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well not really so mystical. Twin (parallel/sequntial) Turbo setups on INLINE ENGS tend to not make huge (the most possible) HP. What they tend to do is make very solid and LINEAR power bands over broad rev range. Thats is thier function. Plus BMW underates ALL HP numbers as a HOUSE RULE most times. Many others overrate or misrate and that tends to get alot of confusion in the market place where you compare apples and oranges. That can not be said for TWIN TURBOS on V and H block engs. Where one turbo typically goes to one bank and the other turbo to the other bank. AUDI uses this type of setup on its V6 2.7L TT Eng. As does Porsche on its 3.2L H6 Turbo Eng. Think of it in SIMPLE terms as two seperate TURBO 3CYL's. Just they have a common crank. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>BTW the NEW Porsche Twin turbo's with thier variable displacement turbos could if you like be called QUAD TURBO's if you like. As they are really two SEQUENTIAL turbos in one and there are one per bank. Hense FOUR Different size turbos in the mix. Two for LOW end power and two for HIGH end power. They have a phazing or cross over point built into them, and thier programing maps. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Reviving the old thread, does anybody know if there are suparcharger kit that can be added to the 3.0L inline 6 turbo engine? to replace the turbo? or supercharger for the inline 4 engine as well?
 
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