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The TRW rack was seeping fluid, so my mechanic ordered the rebuilt rack, and installed it this morning/afternoon. The problem being, that at low speeds the steering is more stiff than the rack & pinion steering on my Scirocco; at high speeds it(being the steering) gets a little more loose, but still not at what it was this morning before the rack was replaced. Is it possible that the rack is bad, or did my mechanic miss something? Thanks in advance <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><p>p.s. I took the car in after the rack was installed and had the wheels balanced and aligned, and it feels rather good. I will be able to report back a little later in the week of my father's observations-once the power steering issue is resolved. Thanks again for all the help <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: no power steering after having had the power steering rack replaced...... (1sciroccofahrer)

It's possible they didn't bleed the air out.<br>Drive it for a couple of days, sawing the wheel back and forth as much as you can.<br>It either will be OK in a couple of days or you go to plan B
 

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Re: no power steering after having had the power steering rack replaced...... (JRL)

Where would I be without you JRL <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> I will ring my mechanic first thing tomorrow morning, and talk to him about your observations. I hate to ask a dumb question, but can my mechanic bleed the system after the fact? If so, I will have my parents drop the car off first thing tomorrow morning. Thanks again JRL! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: no power steering after having had the power steering rack replaced...... (1sciroccofahrer)

Once it's installed you can't do anything but what I said.<br>You're supposed to have it installed on the rack, wheels hanging, and someone turning the wheel side to side to push the air out. Once it's down, it can take a couple of days.<br>You may be exagerating a bit but if it feels harder to turn right and gives strong resistence right off center, do what I said and it should be OK in 30-50 miles of driving.<br>If you open the PS reservoir and you see air bubbles while it's idling, that's it and definitely is your problem.<br>Just remember the more you turn the wheel back and forth, the quicker it will get better. You need to get the air out and the only way is under pressure<br>(I just did two of these in the past month and had my share of problems)
 

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Re: no power steering after having had the power steering rack replaced...... (JRL)

Thanks JRL......I learn something new everytime you post on the board <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> My parents are going to San Francisco tomorrow afternoon, so I will have them follow your instructions (in regards to turning the steeirng wheel back and forth) and see what transpires. Have a most wonderful evening JRL <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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With a lot of air bubbling to the surface the power steering pump reservoir will lose some of what it has in it...actually the fluid is going into the rack, so you'll need to top it off. Just be careful and don't over-fill. There's a cold and hot level. I've always heard doing it when level is hot. On our cars, the correct fluid is Dextron III/Mercron (same as transmission fluid).
 

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Thanks for the tip MadeinJapan <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> Have a splendid evening <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: (1sciroccofahrer)

Scirocco, <p>I have replaced many rack and pinion type steering units on all types of cars. I have seen many mechs bleed the rack and pump with the car running. Most manuals suggest that they be bled with the engine off. These guys are mostly in a hurry to get the job done and when the engine is running it is supposed to make the fluid pump into the unit faster. The pump just pushes air bubbles into the rack and it will not feel as smooth and will be stiff just as you describe. <p>What MIJ and JRL say is correct, use the right fluid, Dex 3, hang the car in the air and turn the steering wheel at least 20 times to the left and right before starting the engine. After that is done turn it at least 20 more times with engine running and that will ensure most the air bubbles bled out of the system. Kinda same as bleeding brakes with out the car running to make sure that all the air is out of the lines.<br>
 

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Thanks Volvoguy! Hopefully, and I suspect it will, the situation corrects itself in the next day, or two. I am having my parents (on the way to work this morning) stop off at the mechanic to top of the ATF fluid for the power steering-as when I woke up I checked the fluid level and it was a little bit down. Have a splendid Wednesday one and all <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: (1sciroccofahrer)

My parents just got back from San Francisco, and while father thinks that there has been an approximate 5% improvement in steering ability, it is still tight. I am going to have a look at the fluid level of the power steering first thing tomorrow morning, but does it make sense to keep driving it for a few more days to see if there is a radical improvement-or should I simply take the car back in first thing Monday and have my mechanic deal with it? Thanks for all the help, and have a wonderful Thursday evening <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><br>
 

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Re: (1sciroccofahrer)

One of the cars I installed a rack also has "stiffer" steering. After a couple of days of driving it, it too has become 5-10% better (and smoother)<br>Some (Volvo) cars just steer a bit harder than others, why, I don't know.<br>I'm sure there's an answer but I think the longer he drives it, the better it will be
 

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Thanks JRL! I will have my father continue to drive the car and see how the issue sorts itself out. The car can now make u-turns(with some effort), which it could not do Tuesday(when the rack was replaced). Have a most wonderful weekend JRL <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: (1sciroccofahrer)

If it remains<B> very</B> hard after a week, something may have been tightened too much.<br>Don't ask me what or where to look though I have no answer, you might be getting into the pump itself here
 

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Thanks JRL! I will keep an eye on it. My mechanic is calling to call the company (that remanufactures the steering rack) today, and see what, if any, suggestions they might have. Cheers <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Sorry for the delay in getting back to the board. I have been putting my brother's Jetta III back together, and have had absolutely no time for anything else. My parents reported to me yesterday that the power steering is working once again. After almost 500 miles, I was begining to think that the new(remanufactured) rack was bad, but it seems that it has worked out whatever air pockets were in there....or whatever else might have been ailing it. Have a wonderful evening one and all <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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It took nearly two weeks of driving the T5 I have for sale for it to finally be 100% <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I am glad to know JRL that I am not alone <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> I am pondering calling Maval and throwing my two cents into the ring-once I have the Jetta done, of course <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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