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Hi all, I have been reading and learning here for a couple of years now...Kickin the new K,nowledge. Excellent source. Here's my question:<br>Took my car to the dealer for an oil change and decided to request the XC90 bolts to correct the axle ping I have been living with for 2 years. Got a call that the car was ready but that the bolts are no longer available because they didn't work on the XC90 so they were discontinued. They epoxied instead. SA stated that the rubber (on the XC bolts) were only there to keep water out anyway. BS? Anyone heard of these bolts no longer being the fix for the XC?
 

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When I was at VCNA during the summer, they were having talks about how to repair axle ping. They recommended of all things, plumber's putty on the splines. Has worked fantastic.<p>Corrected.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by JoshV70_ at 6:57 PM 5-4-2009</i>
 

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Re: No more XC90 bolts? (classicform)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>classicform</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi all, I have been reading and learning here for a couple of years now...Kickin the new K,nowledge. Excellent source. Here's my question:<br>Took my car to the dealer for an oil change and decided to request the XC90 bolts to correct the axle ping I have been living with for 2 years. Got a call that the car was ready but that the bolts are no longer available because they didn't work on the XC90 so they were discontinued. They epoxied instead. SA stated that the rubber (on the XC bolts) were only there to keep water out anyway. BS? Anyone heard of these bolts no longer being the fix for the XC?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I remeber something about the XC90 and water ingress but I think that was for the rear axles not the front axles (just going by a comment my SM made when I mentioned the XC90 bolts).<p>Did they actually use epoxy? Or was it a metal glue or thread-lock (similar to red Lock-Tight). The metal glue needs to cure over night, otherwise that fix will last 3 days instead of 10 days <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Call John at Boston Volvo, maybe he can get your the XC90 bolts with the rubber spacers.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JoshV70_</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When I was at VCNA during the summer, they were having talks about how to repair axle ping. They recommended of all things, plumber's putty on the threads. Has worked fantastic.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Really? That actually worked? I think we all know that it' the lateral play that makes the 'ping'. So how does plumber's putty solve the lateral play?<p>LTA<br>
 

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Re: No more XC90 bolts? (LTA)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LTA</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Call John at Boston Volvo, maybe he can get your the XC90 bolts with the rubber spacers.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>x2 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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They used metal glue...They had the car overnight, not sure when they applied it or if they let it sit for long. If it doesn't last I'll call John.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>classicform</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They used metal glue...They had the car overnight, not sure when they applied it or if they let it sit for long. If it doesn't last I'll call John.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Start the process with John tomorrow so that you can be ready to pull the trigger Friday when the ping comes back. Just joking. I really hope it lasts a long time. <p>My SM insisted that when done correctly the metal glue will last (he said that all the splines had to be thoroughly cleaned, etc). I never got to find out because I forgot to leave him my wheel lock key so instead I just bought the XC90 bolts over the counter and fixed it myself (that was over 20 months ago <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> ).<p>LTA<br>
 

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Re: No more XC90 bolts? (LTA)

Sorry was thinking the wrong thing when I typed. Corrected myself.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>classicform</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They used metal glue...They had the car overnight, not sure when they applied it or if they let it sit for long. If it doesn't last I'll call John.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Do yourself a favor and buy the bolts now (especially if they are a limited commodity). I had two loctites and the second application even had new hubs to go with it........and still didn't work.
 

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Locktite done "properly" over 50,000 miles ago and the ping is still gone.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>hoagrod</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dealer loctite fix = joke. Had mine done last week and the ping is back again. I hope there is XC90's left.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sometimes it works, sometimes not.<br>It's VERY important that the car sit overnight and not move until it dries!
 

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Mine sat on a lift for a 3 day weekend.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>hoagrod</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well it sat for at least 20 hours after the fix. I must fall into the sometimes not category.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Too bad, had mine done last summer at Borton. Still holding.
 

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As stated, the mating surfaces need to be really clean before gluing. I think the difference between a glue job working vs. failing is probably in the prep by the tech doing the job. And we know what kind of variable that is.<p>As for "not having the bolts", I think the dealer was trying to bilk more work out of you or the warranty re-imbursement. Think about the time it takes to install 2 XC90 bolts vs. disassembling the hub and axle, etc. to apply the glue.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>T5 for Life</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As for "not having the bolts", I think the dealer was trying to bilk more work out of you or the warranty re-imbursement. Think about the time it takes to install 2 XC90 bolts vs. disassembling the hub and axle, etc. to apply the glue. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>More like the XC90 bolts are not an approved S60 fix.
 

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But wouldn't they state that to the customer and give them the option to do it themselves or have the glue applied?<p>Then again, these are dealers we're talking about... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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