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I can't believe what a sc*m sucking company Sunoco is. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0"> *&^%$%%#<br>Went to fill up the R and lo and behold,<B> no more Ultra 94.</B> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Their new "Premium" is 91, 20 cents more for "Ultra 93" <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>What a crock of s**t.<br>So I went to check the other gas stations in the area, all were still 93 for premium (whew) at a MUCH cheaper price. I have a fairly aggresive ECU map so I used to use Ultra most of the time unless I was just doing a trip on the turnpike<br>I guess I'm through with Sunoco for good. (Too much sulphur in their fuel anyway)<br>Back to Amoco/BP
 

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Re: NO MORE SUNOCO 94 ULTRA (JRL)

As of last night, still have 94 over here.
 

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Re: NO MORE SUNOCO 94 ULTRA (MagoonR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MagoonR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As of last night, still have 94 over here.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>This change was in the last 2 days (at least at my nearest station)
 

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Re: NO MORE SUNOCO 94 ULTRA (JRL)

Here in the last 2-3 weeks. Something about the clean air act they told<br>me. They had to add ethanol or something and they could not do it with<br>the 94<p>We still have race gas GT100 here and I would guess you do to so it is not<br>so bad just spike the 93
 

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Re: NO MORE SUNOCO 94 ULTRA (Helmut Ranff)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Helmut Ranff</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here in the last 2-3 weeks. Something about the clean air act they told<br>me. They had to add ethanol or something and they could not do it with<br>the 94<p>We still have race gas GT100 here and I would guess you do to so it is not<br>so bad just spike the 93 </TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's the elimination of the anti-knock additive MTBE which, although cheap and effective, is outlawed in ever more states as a cancer agent that shows up in ground water. <p>Sunoco has eliminated MTBE and that maybe not due to PA outlawing it. It maybe that they've had to for another state and don't want to do separate formulations.<p>CA started the MTBE crusade. Thanks for that. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: NO MORE SUNOCO 94 ULTRA (Helmut Ranff)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Helmut Ranff</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does that mean race gas is next to go. Does it have this MTBE or some other anti knock?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>MTBE is an oxygenate that was added to gasoline in order to obtain the same octane level while lowering the amount of hydrocarbons burned (for a cleaner, more emmissions friendly burn). <p>Yes, CARB pushed this "wonder additive" which is now suspected to be super duper carcinogentic and is being replaced in the NorthEast with Ethanol. The problem with MTBE is it's very soluable in water. It would rather bond with water than the soil. Once in groundwater, it is much harder to remove than even gasoline. <p>Lovely.
 

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Re: NO MORE SUNOCO 94 ULTRA (needsdecaf)

They stopped selling 94 up here a year or so ago (Boston area). Maybe more...<p>Could you use an octane booster in a can to bring octane levels up higher?<br>
 

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Heh, here in Cali we have nothing but 91... for a long time now. It is either octane booster or mix 100 race gas. I don't really like using octane booster though.
 

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Re: NO MORE SUNOCO 94 ULTRA (Volvo Grrrr)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Volvo Grrrr</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They stopped selling 94 up here a year or so ago (Boston area). Maybe more...<p>Could you use an octane booster in a can to bring octane levels up higher?<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Octane Boosters will not sufficiently raise the octane. Find some 100 octane.
 

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Re: NO MORE SUNOCO 94 ULTRA (StaggRLee)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>StaggRLee</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>CA started the MTBE crusade. Thanks for that. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>yeah, safe drinking water sucks!
 

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Re: NO MORE SUNOCO 94 ULTRA (kenschel)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>kenschel</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>yeah, safe drinking water sucks!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think he meant started the crusade to ADD MTBE to gasoline to lower emissions, not to remove it for safety reasons.<p>
 

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Re: NO MORE SUNOCO 94 ULTRA (kenschel)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>kenschel</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>yeah, safe drinking water sucks!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No I meant they started the crusade to <B>add </B>it to gas. I drink water too.
 

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Re: NO MORE SUNOCO 94 ULTRA (StaggRLee)

I told you guys this a month ago.<p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=51851&postid=492875#492875" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/z...92875</A>
 

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Re: NO MORE SUNOCO 94 ULTRA (StaggRLee)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>StaggRLee</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No I meant they started the crusade to <B>add </B>it to gas. I drink water too. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>ah, misread you...sorry
 

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Re: NO MORE SUNOCO 94 ULTRA (JRL)

yeah, sucks big time, we still have 94 in Cherry Hill, but up in Edison, NJ where I work, they've switched to Ultra 93. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> I guess the bright side is that this summer when gas $$ hit the roof, we can put 91 in and save a few bucks. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: NO MORE SUNOCO 94 ULTRA (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I guess I'm through with Sunoco for good. (Too much sulphur in their fuel anyway)<br>Back to Amoco/BP</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Something odd about this since Sunoco.ca has this on their Canadian web site: "Like our other ethanol-enhanced gasolines, Ultra 94 is responsible to the environment because of its low sulphur content. This commitment to the air we breathe is highlighted by the EcoLogoM environmental product designation on all of our gasolines."<br>Read more here: <A HREF="http://www.sunoco.ca/default.aspx?ID=2390" TARGET="_blank">http://www.sunoco.ca/default.aspx?ID=2390</A> <p>We still have 94 in Toronto (as of my fill-up Friday night).<p>LTA<br>
 
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