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A friend of mine says it is better to fill your tires with nitrogen instead of air, though he could not explain why; he'd heard it somewhere blah blah blah... I had no idea this is done, until I watched a segment on Discovery about the Carrera GT with Jay Leno in a race track (Talladega or something, can't recall) where the car used nitrogen instead of air in the tires. Gotta be good I guess, but is it only for the track or for road use as well?
 

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Re: Nitrogen vs. Air - Any ideas? (acg69)

Standard fare in many big trucks.......... I do it on any new mounts. I have a Nitrogen tank in my garage for adjustments. Mounting needs to be done "dryly" to gain most benefit.
 

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Re: Nitrogen vs. Air - Any ideas? (acg69)

Standard fill at Costco, at least in Southlake Texas. No additional charge.
 

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Re: Nitrogen vs. Air - Any ideas? (rogersampson)

If they get water inside tire during mounting, it cancels the reduced-expansion benefit. Nitrogen does not deteriotrate rubber like plain air.<p>Google for more facts
 

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Re: Nitrogen vs. Air - Any ideas? (rogersampson)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>rogersampson</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Standard fill at Costco, at least in Southlake Texas. No additional charge.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Same at Costco in California.<p>William
 

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water and soap are used to lubricate the mounting bead of a tire when it is installed on a whell.<p>water gets in a tire, or, in the air that fills a tire and will expand with heat and change the tire pressures.<p>also the nitrogen is a basic inert gas and will not work on the rubber as an air (a blend of gasses) will.
 

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Re: Nitrogen vs. Air - Any ideas? (acg69)

Earth's atmosphere is already 78% nitrogen. <br>The rep at Discount Tire called it 'the latest thing' and not worth the extra money on tires that can not be retreaded. If you run your tires hard and build up a lot of heat in then, which can increase corrosion and pressure fluctuations, then nitrogen can be good. If you live where there is a lot of humidity, then nitrogen can decrease the negative effects of water corrosion on your rims. <br><A HREF="http://www.retread.org/PDF/Bridgestone_Article_lowres.pdf" TARGET="_blank">http://www.retread.org/PDF/Bri...s.pdf</A><p>- Polartek
 

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Your tires run cooler when filled with nitrogen. My S40 T5 I have nitrogen installed the day I collected her. at 40 000km my tires were looking like new. Apparently the cooler running also prolongs the life of your tires. What I noticed, on a 1600km drive to cape town in the s40, my tires were warm and you could easily lay your hand on the foot of the tire, where as my father in laws tires on his mercedes were almost to hot to touch. So, in my opnion, you do a lot of high speed driving, nitrogen is the way to go.
 

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I had my tires filled with nitrogen last fall and have not touched them since. I check the pressure every month at it remained consistent during winter and now in the summer.<p>I have been happy so far. I can't comment on a differnece in wear other than I have about 10,000 miles on my PS2s and it looks like I still have plenty of life left. That may be normal though.<p>-Ben
 

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I run nitrogen in my R and my vette.<p>Pressure consistency is great out here in the desert.
 

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Re: Nitrogen vs. Air - Any ideas? (acg69)

Pretty much all performance cars in Germany run nitrogen, VERY common there. Course, with autobahn, you are looking at much higher friction temps. <p>I switched to Nitrogen after JimLill suggested it for Nurburgring prep. I noticed: <p>No loss of tire pressure over a whole season of driving and many trips to the ring<br>Tires stayed cooler on the ring, left less rubber on the track than others<br>BFGs were still in amazing shape after much 7 trips to ring and lots of high speed driving<br>Girls were 50% more likely to give me their phone number. <p>NOTE: that last statistic has a margin of error of +/- 50%
 

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I did a Google search and could only find one place in my area that offered it - Toyota of Morristown, NJ. They want $40. Seems pretty steep to me! If it was cheaper I would probably go for it. I like the idea that the pressure doesn't flucuate from hot to cold weather. Plus, Formula One cars use it, so that makes it cool in my book. And those extra 50% of girls...
 

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Do you happen to have a Costco membership? I see three of them listed online within 10 miles of Berkeley Heights. If you're considering paying $40 for nitrogen and you don't have a Costco membership I suggest it's a better investment to buy a membership and stop by the tire shop for air (ask them to price some expensive UHP tires for your R first and then ask them to put Nitrogen in your current tires.)
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>p0cket penguins</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what happens if you put helium in your tires</TD></TR></TABLE><p>tire chatter becomes higher pitched and duck-like...
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>p0cket penguins</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what happens if you put helium in your tires</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Just don't put Hydrogen in your tires. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just don't put Hydrogen in your tires. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>"Dammit Mitchell, why'd you put Hydrogen in the tires?"<p><IMG SRC="http://www.agonybooth.com/mitchell/exploding_car.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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hahahaha. but helium would make your car slightly lighter since the molecular wieght of helium is almost 3.5 times less than nitrogen. so if you use the pv=nrt equation you can get the same pressure with less mass. also an inert gas so it wont react with the tires
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just don't put Hydrogen in your tires.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Any dry inert gas would prevent oxidation and reduce expansion due to water-to-vapor phase change. A larger molecule size would reduce slow leaks. I suggest CO2 (dry carbon dioxide). <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Zero fire risk. <br>
 
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