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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No more than that.<br>Overpriced and certainly not worth the C70 badge.<p>Didn't drive the car. It was side by side with a V50 and to me it didn't look anything different.<br>That front of the C70 makes the car cheap. It is no more than an S40. Dashboard also S40 and no added value. Rear is very nice I must say.<p>Still it is a small car. The price in my country is way to high for such an S40 based vehicle.<p>A downgrade from the earlier model despite the technological developments over the last 7 or so years.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>
 

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Re: Nice S40 convertible - the review (Johann)

Drove the C70 this morning.<p>Specs, Silver C70T5 Geartronic Summum, 18" rims 235/40-18 Pirelli tires. Dynaudio and a lot of other gadgets. Black leather interior.<p>Needed to wait for more than an hour because the car was brought back to Volvo HQ in the middle of the country for roof repairs..<p>The weather this morning was very nice, ~75 degree and sunny, and we were waiting for the car in front of the dealership which is situated close to a run off from the highway.<br>Saw the car drive toward us while still on the highway and it looked very nice. In the sun and with the light silver color and the lower windshield angle the stance of the car was very impressive, roof was closed btw. From a distance the wider fenders can be noticed much better. With the darker color and standing in a showroom or workshop the width of the car from the front doesn't appear as impressive as the lighter car out in the open.<p>Because of the delay the time to drive the car was limited. Better said there wasn't any time at all but promise was promise so new dealer plates were put on the car and I could take it for a short spin. One of the dealer people went with we as a passenger.<p>I decided to drive the car with the roof open to see if any of the rear "boat like" behavior as mentioned by others could be noticed. Roof opened without fuzz while dealer people and mechanics surrounding the car kept shouting "Keep foot on the brake!!" <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> checking out the trunk space... Hmm.. The weird "overload" protection panel appeared very flimsy.. Upping the folded roof to put some lugguage in takes a while also.<p>Time to drive.<br>First part of the route was 4.4 mile of fairly smooth highway. Car was all warmed up from it's morning trip halfway accross the country. Entrance uphill and flat to slightly donwhill from there to the exit leading back to the dealer over back roads. The car felt solid, steering felt connected. Uphill the engine, 120 miles, needed a bit more throttle compared to my R to lead it up with a moderate/average pace. This character was noticed on a few other occasions also and I can imagine it can give an impression as if the engine is laggy and needs to work hard. The highway part was driven along the speed limit of 75 mph, nothing fancy or sportive but just a relaxed cruise and the car behaved very well. <br>The real suspension beats 4C by a mile and some. Natural feel. The weight of teh car can be noticed a bit but overall and given it's near identical weight to an S60R I must say it felt composed and stable. No weird track changing suspension imputs but plain solid behavior.<br>The boat like feel wasn't there, at least in my experience. Maybe the fact that the rear hold some weight with the roof down might give the impression. I think it is best compared to let's say a V70 with some weight in the rear. The weight can be noticed but the car, at least this car wasn't upset about it. Shaking the steering wheel made the body float a little like expected from a car this weight. Suspension is well balanced and doesn't bring to much intrusive noises with the rather big wheels. Off the highway on to the back roads driving along the speed limit of 50 mph. Some parts pretty bumpy with tracks in the surface. The car did wonderful. Very little rattle shake could be noticed, Mainly the rear windows start wobbling a bit. Cowl shake was minimal also. It was there but slight. The person driving with me said that it was a clear improvement over the old model. <br>After that we accelerated the car near full throttle from ~50 up to ~87 mph, I think I saw little over 5000 rpm IIRC, and kept the car at this speed for a while over the bumpy roads. The engine responded well, geartronic appeared to perform very smooth also and totally different from the horror experience I had with a V70T5 GT years ago.. Power was adequate for this type of car I guess but no more than that. Very good steering feel. All in all the ride felt more like a larger car, the S40's I have driven clearly felt like smaller car compared to what I'm used to which is the S60R. The C70 felt closer to the S60. Far better shock behavior although more comforable compared to the R of course. As Yannis puts it, compliant (I think)<br>Also the car felt roomier behind the wheel compared to what I remember from driving the S40. A difference between OK or comfortable and slightly "seated". This even while the roof line of the C is lower. Maybe the seats are lower?? Steering wheel felt very nice, overall quality appeared very good also, not a real fan of the console but with the chrome knobs it looked solid and of high quality. The display was very clear in the bright sun. <p>Entering a small village we needed to wait for kiddo's passing the zebra at a school. While waiting and talking with the passenger I noticed a small drone coming from the car which bugged me. It was irritating, to noticeable. Conversation was very doable at all time btw with the roof down.<br>Back wind was very little, a stronger flow of air from the back to the front could be felt over the centre arm rest. AC went overtime when on... I would have expected some sort of open roof compensation one way or the other. Blower kept running at a high speed when temps were set to 72 degree.<p>Audio was nice, didn't really bother to test but the passenger was playing with the system a bit and it sounded well. Bass appeared to be a bit oversteered. <p>A short drive, near 10 miles total I guess, but the car left a good impression. Parked the car in the inhouse carwash area at the dealer and we went around the car a few times to further discuss the details. First thing noticed again that the front changed from sexy and wide to fairly normal S40 level again... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> It really needs to be looked at from a distance. I really hope Volvo will change the front appearance sooner rather than later to give it a bit more class.<br>Basically it doesn't really need that much change, maybe a projector lamp like the facelifted S60 as long as different from teh S40 and maybe a small R like extension or minimal spoiler lip added to the lower corners and intakes of the front bumper. Still weird because the rear is so very good looking.<p>Downside like mentioned, the price. The one we drove was estimated above €65K... (Base S60R 6MT = €70.500) Although the car feels more S60/V70 than S40/V50 it still is an S40, front is 100% identical under the sheet metal up to the firewall. for this money the engine should deliver at least 30-40 more horsepower.
 

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Re: Nice S40 convertible - the review (Johann)

Nice detail Johann. Thanks.<p>I wonder what the drone in your car was. I don't recall noticing it when I drove one. I'll have to pay attention more to that when I get my hands on one next time.<p>If you plan on another test drive, I'd be curious of what you think of it top-up.<p>Regards,<br>George
 

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Re: Nice S40 convertible - the review (Johann)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Johann</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The weird "overload" protection panel appeared very flimsy..</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The material is pretty sturdy but, yes, it is shaky and gives one the impression that it should not be "forced" for fear of falling apart. Volvo needs to address that, only from the "feel" standpoint.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Upping the folded roof to put some lugguage in takes a while also.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That one can be tricky but it is a matter of practice.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The display was very clear in the bright sun. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>The display is coated with an anti-glare film. If you look closely, its coating has a purplish hue, indicative of the anti-glare blocker.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">While waiting and talking with the passenger I noticed a small drone coming from the car which bugged me. It was irritating, to noticeable. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>The electrohydraulic steering pump? Typical in the S40/V50 models.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">AC went overtime when on... I would have expected some sort of open roof compensation one way or the other. Blower kept running at a high speed when temps were set to 72 degree.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Volvo needs to do a better job with the auto climate sensors. No matter if a car has an open roof or not (and all P2x cars plus the new S40s and V50s) suffer from an initial confusion when it comes to regulating fan speed (when in auto mode, of course). It could be 21 degrees (Celsius) outside and the fan will go on like mad. And it will stay on for longer than desired. Many times I have to adjust manually, which I should not have to do.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Downside like mentioned, the price. The one we drove was estimated above €65K... (Base S60R 6MT = €70.500) Although the car feels more S60/V70 than S40/V50 it still is an S40, front is 100% identical under the sheet metal up to the firewall. for this money the engine should deliver at least 30-40 more horsepower. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Here, price is better adjusted (but again, North America will represent 50% of the global volume); if the car is loaded with everything (Climate/Bi-Xenons, Premium, Geartronic, 18" Mirzams, Navigation, etc.) it tops out at about USD46,000. Not exactly cheap but along the lines of its competitors.<p>Yannis
 

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Re: Nice S40 convertible - the review (GrecianVolvo)

Very nice review Johann! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Wait untill you se my baby (passion red, off-black leather interior, and 18" Mirzam <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> ) Ahh, it's so nice <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Delivery veeeeery soon <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I was under the impression that the drone came from the engine/exhaust when idle.<br>For whatever reason is sounded amplified. A monotone bass like humming, drone, not really buzz.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Johann</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For whatever reason is sounded amplified. A monotone bass like humming, drone, not really buzz.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Turn the subwoofers on - <B>OFF</B> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Johann</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was under the impression that the drone came from the engine/exhaust when idle.<br>For whatever reason is sounded amplified. A monotone bass like humming, drone, not really buzz.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Automatic was in Drive and you had your foot on the brake when stading still? Could be de drone of the engine...
 

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Re: Nice S40 convertible - the review (Johann)

Very nice review Johann.. I really enjoyed it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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