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Apparently the face and grill of all SPA2 cars will be much lower to improve the range of the BEV powertrain.

 

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That scares me a little... ?

.... That's why I hope the next S90 comes with it, even as an option (as the BMW 5 Series, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Genesis G80, Jaguar XF and Audi RS 6 all do).

If it does and retains those looks and more, I will buy immediately! ?

I do not really believe there will be a SPA2 sedan.
Volvo can choose to go directly pure electric with the SEA platform or just pass this segment on to the polestar Precept.

 

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In the newly published "Annual report 2020" one can read: "New scalable BEV architectures for all Volvo models as of 2025"

Seems that SPA2 will have a short life...

https://investors.volvocars.com/annualreport2020/assets/pdf/VCG_ENG_2020_web_20210317.pdf

 

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My biggest question remains why Volvo skipped "conventional" hybrid, as Toyota/Lexus have been doing for a long time. There's a big whitespace between mild hybrid (glorified stop-start + e-push) and PHEV. If Toyota (and soon, Lexus) can offer vehicles starting as conventional hybrid, why couldn't Volvo? Seems to me that's a far more impactful place to start vs. MHEV. But at this point, I expect most investment will be for EV, with some refinements to PHEV.

It is actually in development! As more european countries has started to stop supporting PHEV vehicules (and diesel). Full HEV and BEV are the next hot seller for all the european brands.

 

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I like the profile as well. It doesn't look like a SUV Coupé which is a good thing. It's rather like a sporty Cross Country car. I wonder how large it will be. Sharing the platform with the XC90 doesn't mean that its size will be equal. For me personally, everything larger than XC60 is too large. Hope I don't have to wait 2 years until Polestar releases such information.

Project code is P519. The first digit in Volvo language usually refers to the vehicule lenght. 5 = serie 90 or around 5m long.
Based on this information, one can predict that it will be large SUV coupé à la Audi Q8.
Previsiouly mentioned in an other tread. The first batch of SPA2 vehicles will receive a 115 kwh battery pack. This large pack should also restrained the possibilty to adjust the wheelbase.

How expensive this car will be? BMW iX price?

 

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Let us compare these two vehicles. I'd say that the car under the cover has everything that the CGI car has. Same window line, same "hips" crease, same roof spoiler, same frunk shape, and you can even see the rear light under the cover (a dark shade) and it is the same as in the CGI. If you look close, you can also see the front light shaping under the cover. But yes, you could now say that they might have changed the "grille" in the last minute. I still bet they didn't...

I am agree with you that the preview pics and this axonometric projection i posted 8 months ago are indeed the same car. As you mentionned, Axonometric projection can be tricky to read.
Instead of focusing on the whole proportion which are somehow deform by the view setting used in the CGI, I have tried to identified some of the design element similarities:

In red, the design elements which are the same between the CGI and the teaser as

• the trim below the back spoiler linking the triangular rear quarter to the back windows. This detail is so peculiar that it can not be mistaken with anything else
• the sharp curve close to the headlight is also quite unique.

In green, the design elements which are the same between the CGI and Precept as

• the front spoiler
• the two screens of the UI
• the line below the back spoiler as an extention of the window trim.

 

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... The specs on the SEA platform look really impressive.

Which SEA? there are 5 of them

SEA1 large vehicules wheelbase > 2, 900 mm as the Zeekr 001 with a 800-volt architecture
SEA2 Wheelbase from 2,650 mm to 2,900 mm Next Smart SUV, certainly next XC20
SEA-S (as sport) some info may be presented by Lotus at goodwood this summer
SEA-C (as commercial) which will underpin vehicles between 3.5 and 5.5 tonnes, including buses with a capacity of up to 12 passengers and pick-up trucks.
SEA-E (as entry) base vehicules.

At the same time Volvo is developping its own platform ICE/BEV: SPA2 for its next SUV generation: XC90 / Polestar 3 and XC60 / Polestar 4
SPA2 consists of 2 distinctives floor plans / chassis / skateboard, (whatever you call them)

• one for the ICE powertrain
• one for the BEV, a flat floor version with differents suspension elements designed to cope with the extra weight
• The body on top of them can be of the same design.

 

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I guess that SPA2 will be the last of the SPA platforms. Since Volvo will be an entirely electric brand by 2030, there will be no more need to develop platforms that can use both electric and ICE engines.

Your guess sounds just about right!

A last hurrah of ICE SUV will be build on SPA2 like the XC90, XC60 and maybe even a XC100. Their polestar derivatives P4 and P3 will already only used the flat floor BEV variant of this platform.
As for the more aerodynamic sedans and estates? Will Volvo switch them directly to a pure BEV platform? Volvo sells them at such a low volume, does it make sence to build a new ICE S60 by 2025?

 

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June 30th, 2021 at 14:00

14.00 Opening Remarks
14.15 Keynote 1: Zero Collisions
14.30 Zero Collision - Discussion and Q&A
14.45 Keynote 2: Core Computing
15.00 Core Computing - Discussion and Q&A
15.15 Keynote 3: Batteries and Propulsion
15.30 Batteries and Propulsion - Discussion and Q&A
15.45 Keynote 4: Future Connected Experience
16.00 Future Connected Experience - Discussion and Q&A
16.15 Keynote 5: The Future of Design
16.25 Closing Remarks

 

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That would absolutely make sense from a tech/production point of view. Hasn't the old XC90 also been continued to be sold in China as "XC90 Classic"? Even today, the current XC90 doesn't feel like an old car that needs to be replaced. I'm actually expecting the same thing for all the cars on the SPA platform: For example a BEV C60 SUV-Coupe while the classic XC60 with PHEV and ICU soldiers on for 10 to 12 years. Same with a BEV wagon along the PHEV/ICU 60/90 wagons and sedans.

If you look at the newly revealed 7 seater Lynk & co 09 based on SPA, the XC90 could as well be updated with the same tech and live on some extra MY.
The 09 will be available with a mild hybrid 48V 250hp VEA with the latest Borg warner AWD coupling.
HEV and a 450hp PHEV will also available with an updated rear motor some produces 2 time the power: 177hp.

Lynk & Co 09 fully revealed – Volvo XC90-based three-row SUV with upmarket design, 14 Bose speakers - paultan.org

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Volvo Cars to harness real-time data from customer cars to set new safety standards - Volvo Cars Global Media Newsroom

Interesting: In the latest press release of today, the new XC90 is mentioned as a fully electric flagship SUV on a completely new electric-only technology base. There is not a single word about its name nor about a car that it may replace. I believe that this is actually the XC100 (maybe C90?) and that it's going to be built alongside the current XC90.

Sounds good to me!
Cant it be project code V616 (XC100) that has been mentionned some years ago
V536 (XC90) may still come as ICE and BEV

 

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Has this been confirmed or just wishful thinking?

Putting upgrade mild hybrid, new infotainment software and battery pack on a model (XC90) that is supposed to be replaced with a "new" model in same year (2023), when the previous year (2022) it was not "upgraded" with the rest of your fleet? Doesn't sound like business operational sense to me.

Volvo netherlands has uppdated the brochure for the V60 MY22.5
The battery pack has not been upgraded as I can see for the top trim.
There is just a new 7 DCT for the lowest trim to go under a certain CO2 tax bracket

Prijslijsten

www.volvocars.com

 

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I believe this is related to German regulations. Just recently, they updated their tax regulations in the way that hybrid cars must now reach 60 km (previously: 40 km) fully electric in order to qualify for a tax advantage. The only way for Volvo to keep selling SPA PHEVs in Germany is to increase size of the batteries. If they don't, sales are down. This also goes for the XC90, even if it will be retired soon.

Ab 2022: Keine Kaufprämie für dicke Plug-In-Hybride - Elektroauto-News.net

Same in Sweden. The tax advantage for PHEV will be harder to reach each coming years. The Co2 emissions limit is gradually going down from 60 to 30g / km in 2023.
The whole range, XC90 included, can now qualify for 2 more tax years.

 

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I have been wondering for a while now, Volvo has upgrade its T6 / 8 hybrids, but how is the following possible:
T6 = 250 + 145 = combined power 350
T8 = 310 + 145 = combined power 455

Did I something miss in math or we indirectly got the right value of power namely 145 electric hp is equal to 100 hp and ex T6/8 electric 87 hp is only 60 real hp. So upgraded T8 is obvious 410 hp which is great.

depending of the tune, the peak HP of the motor and the peak HP of engine don´t always top at the same rpm.

 

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According to some swedish media, next Volvo BEV will be named after the old norse mythology. The "Embla" name has been registered.

 

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During this morning Q&A after the Q3 report:

• Volvo CEO confirmed that the company existing SUV will continue to be uptaded and produced in parallel to the new low roof / high seated BEV.
• The next large BEV will be presented at the end of 2022
• As mentionned earlier, volvo will after that present a XC30 sized BEV
• Next, by mid decade, will Volvo show a XC60 sized BEV

Volvo Cars Live

live.volvocars.com

 

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Are wagons alive?

Volvo confirms saloons and estates to remain part of line-up | Autocar

Car maker will replace its traditional models, despite sales of S and V series being eclipsed by SUVs

www.autocar.co.uk

 

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When Håkan says "We talk a lot about range in electric cars, but I think we will start looking at energy efficiency"
I read: New taxation system on the way in Europe based on kwh/mile. Of course Volvo will then need a low drag car

 

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I wonder how SC factory ties into this? Will Torslanda be supplying body parts & batteries to SC? Or might SC duplicate casting alongside its own paint and final assembly?

The casting in Torslanda will only be ready by 2025. This investment is not related to SPA2 and the upcoming XC90/Embla and polestar 3 which are going to be assembled in SC.

We are now talking about a completly new generation of electric car.
This announcement follows last week announcement of a Volvo+Northvolt joint venture in a new battery cell plant with start of production in 2025.

 

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Is megacasting anything like Tesla's "gigacasting" or is it something different?

Same principal. It is not specified if Volvo will also source the casting press from the same company, IDRA group, as Tesla does.
In a separate interview to the swedish newspaper, a Volvo engineer mentioned that the plan is to install 2x8,000-ton die-casting machine.