Does anyone recall how and when the past two hybrid battery upgrades for the XC60 and XC90 took place? Were either of them mid model year as is anticipated for at least the XC60 beginning with a November 2021 production date (mid 2022 model year?). In both instances the upgraded battery was fitted to both the XC60 and XC90 at the same time, correct?Probably there is no more "next XC90". News about battery/ERAD upgrade is coming to XC60/S90/V90 T8 only. I don't see XC90 will get anything new before being replaced by the new "EV SUV".
Thanks for providing what appears to be confirmation that both the XC60 and XC90 are going to be getting the upgraded hybrid battery at the same time.Translation from Swedish PR: "The new powertrain is introduced on all Volvo Recharge charging hybrids based on the SPA platform (Scalable Product Architecture), which includes Volvo S60, V60, XC60, S90, V90 and XC90 Recharge. They are on sale from today."
Don't conflate with: "The single-pedal drive will be implemented gradually in the Volvo XC60, S90 and V90 Recharge plug-in hybrids."
Besides, if next gen XC90 is canx, the dealer-leaders that have already seen it are going to be mighty angry.
If all goes as expected the XC90 Recharges coming off the manufacturing line in Gothenburg, Sweden during late November of this year should be equipped with he 18kwh battery pack. One would expect that within two months any of those cars headed for the U.S. could begin arriving at port. There could be some additional delay either in port or at a storage site until U.S. certifications for the new powertrain have been obtained and the cars can then be released to dealer lots. Late February or into March would thus be likely for the 18kwh battery pack in the USA.New member here looking to get into XC90 recharge. Anyone guess, the time frame for the 18kwh battery pack in the USA?
Of course that 21 miles sounds like a conservative figure given some of the reported experiences on this forum and the longer distances estimated by Volvo in Europe. Regardless it will be welcome to have an extra ten miles or so added along with the increased tax credit - assuming Congress doesn't price out the credit for electric assisted cars costing what the XC90 costs.Sweet!
21 miles on the old pack just can't keep up with the competition. BMW x5 phev is up to 30.
I don't like this name. For American market, they better use some word that is familiar to English speakers. It is better to just call it Thor.
Encyclopedia Britannica -
"Askr and Embla, in Norse mythology, the first man and first woman, respectively, parents of the human race."
It follows their hints - Seems like Embla will be it
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Would have to check the time line to make sure, but Chrysler was Mercedes (i.e. merged) for awhile. Good chance then that the MB origin would still hold.I vaguely recall Chrysler actually was first to brand with “E Class” badge. Everyone thought it was lifted from MB, but technically not. And oh so craptastic.
Drive-E Class M-Blah?
I’m feeling onset holiday lunacy coming on.
Not sure how informative it is, but apparently the trademark application for the name Embla was only applied for in Europe. Hopefully that is a good sign for us in the U.S. where the name Embla conjures up images of embalming.I tend to agree with you. I looked up the name; Embla (in Norse Mythology) was the name of the first woman. Askr and Embla | Norse mythology
That may well be true, but is of little consolation to buyers who intend to keep their battery powered vehicles well past the warranty period. Almost sounds like leasing or buying extended warranties is the only protection a consumer will have.I can't locate the article now, but I recently read (if I recall correctly) that BMW has stated that they have not had a single i3 battery replacement under warranty since launch. Perhaps battery premature battery failure (versus natural decrease in capacity) isn't an issue. Anyone else see this statement?
Added to that question is the apparent impossibility of even replacing a battery so what are you really getting with the warranty, even if it is extended, - the option of the car being "totaled" at its likely minimal depreciated value?Will VIP extend coverage beyond 100k on traction batter? Is it covered/not excluded?
Anyone else catch the Polestar Super Bowl Ad?Volvo isn't "affordable," though. I guess they'll have the relatively affordable smaller than XC40 car out but it'll be in a very competitive space. The V60 is almost impossible to even find at least out in the USA, so that's not the answer. Volvo at least needs competitive range.
I hope in the "Embla," Volvo does a better interior/exterior than the Concept Recharge. I'm not sure if the next-gen Volvos are going to have that same wow factor the current Volvos had when they were introduced. Polestar, OTOH, does seem to have it but the name Polestar isn't familiar with many.
It is surprising how little has been leaked. Perhaps the days of automotive spy photographers has gone the way of actual investigative journalism.It's funny. We see the full Lotus SUV and not anything from Volvo but the Concept Recharge. Polestar's 3 is still in camouflage.
Those photos add to the impression that Volvo is returning to its wagon roots. Call it a SUV but if it quacks like a wagon it is still a wagon.A Dutch magazine had a background article regarding Volvo's upcoming large EV. All well known information such as the name, EV only, reference to Recharge Concept, SPA2, the production location and some remarks XC90 will be built for a while. So nothing news.
What I wanted to share with you are the photoshops they made. I always struggle a bit with the original Recharge Concept proportions, while too much ground clearance and those small tires. I have to admit that their impression looks a lot better.
Interesting. Instead of announcing that the product would be available by the fourth quarter this year it Is now "more details on that product" will be released. Definitely sounds like the time frame for production itself is evidently out of Volvo's hands."...asked by Autocar if it was still on track to arrive in 2022, Volvo CEO Jim Rowan said: "We are very much on track. We've made commitments that we would be launching a certain amount of vehicles every year, and we'll make the decision on when we release that, but the fourth quarter this year is when we will release more details on that product."
New 2023 Volvo EX90 to be revealed today | AutocarRange-topping Volvo EV to get innovative safety tech and use new SPA2 platformwww.autocar.co.uk
Oh no - thick dust on SC factory floor - I completely missed that one.Good catch. Maybe in Q4 we'll get XC90 SPA 1.2 reveal + "more details" (e.g. press release) re: revised timeline for EV Flagship?
Perhaps reveal of P*3 has been delayed since production itself could be delayed? Chips, war, thick dust on SC factory floor, et al.
Sounds like a pretty "safe" prediction, at least with regard to Embla. The prior talk had been that production would begin in 2022 with vehicles not being at dealers until 2023. Only thing that may have changed is that production will begin at the U.S. plant as little as a month or two later. Availability in 2023 always was a big unknown.Kris Rifa did a video on the Polestar announcement. According to insiders he knows both Polestar 3 and Embla are delayed and actual cars will be delivered in 2023. Nobody is saying when in 2023. I'll take the announcements for Polestar in October and Volvo whenever and the reveals. We need to see the vehicles. Then if they come in the Spring or Summer, so be it. Kind of happened that way with the Polestar 2 but we saw at least the exterior of the 2 long before it was sold.
Perhaps it was a hologram?Good that dealers saw the real deal re: SPA1.2 in Miami. But yes, have been disappointed that no grainy stealth photos have appeared!