Volvo engineers/designers please find a way to aesthetically blend and remove that horrendous modern front hood line. I'm hopeful there is a way to incorporate safety and design together.
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I'm eager to see what the Polestar 3 looks like or the production version of the Precept. I have a feeling it'll be a few years out and I'm in the market next year for an EV (Cadillac Lyriq has my eye especially when they come out with a dual motor).
I saw this awhile back, and I surely hope this is not the Polestar 3, even though the interior dash and driver display have a small hint of the Precept as stated before.
I don't understand why Volvo and Polestar are taking their time while they had such a momentum. I understand EVERYBODY is affected by this pandemic but still... pedal to the metal cant stop the momentum the whole brand is building.
Side profile shape looks good from this tease. Can't wait!
I'm not sure if this teased have the side camera, kind of big, with the profile of a side camera being more flat. Also being built in the USA . Anyway, time will tell.
On a tangent, there are so many issues in this country (USA), that the last thing they will probably take a look at is an overhaul of safety in the automotive world. The world should just simplify it and make it universal, at least those countries that agree to make a universal safety. Sometimes you just have to follow the KISS rule.
On a tangent, there are so many issues in this country (USA), that the last thing they will probably take a look at is an overhaul of safety in the automotive world. The world should just simplify it and make it universal, at least those countries that agree to make a universal safety. Sometimes you just have to follow the KISS rule.
I hope its not priced like the iX, that thing is easily $100K plus (US dollars). From the pictures the iX looks is deceiving but its a big car.
I hope that by building the P*3 the South Carolina Volvo plant in the US, they can reduce the pricing and transfer it to potential customer. IMO, as fantastic of an EV the Polestar 2 is, the first edition fully loaded is a bit overpriced especially for a newcomer. They could have priced it $5k lower than it is (Without the tax credit). I understand that there will be lower tiered version rumored to come out that will be priced lower, still.
This is a lot of hope in this response that will hopefully translate into reality.
Volvo's pricing strategy with the XC40/C40 Recharge EVs is really priced at the higher end of their EV segment. There are too many barriers and competition coming to be able to that right now, adaption from ICE to EVs, other OEM EVs, and the fact is outside of this new ownership, Volvo has been blah for at least a decade prior (Ownership under Ford, and what not). IMO, the top end spec of these two cars should be at least $5k less than what it is (not accounting for EV tax credits and other incentives in the US).
Hopefully Volvo can priced their upcoming EVs at the middle tier of each segment. Will see but looking at these two, its highly doubtful. My 2017 V90 XC is my first ownership into the brand, and I had to do a lot of research into the car/brand what they have done lately and going forward. It didn't hurt that I was able to negotiate a huge discount practically the tax of the car. BUT Volvo really doesn't have the brand cache and recognition YET of upper tiers, so pricing it as such IMO is not a good strategy right now when you are still building positive momentum.
Hopefully Volvo can priced their upcoming EVs at the middle tier of each segment. Will see but looking at these two, its highly doubtful. My 2017 V90 XC is my first ownership into the brand, and I had to do a lot of research into the car/brand what they have done lately and going forward. It didn't hurt that I was able to negotiate a huge discount practically the tax of the car. BUT Volvo really doesn't have the brand cache and recognition YET of upper tiers, so pricing it as such IMO is not a good strategy right now when you are still building positive momentum.
I'm giving this new and now old Volvo management their fair share of props, but they need to get their pricing strategy right with electrification (EV cars) or get pricing power with their supply chain right. Damn use Geely's pricing power.
Volvo currently has priced their XC40/C40 EVs in the upper premium tiers, wrong move, and it will probably reflect in the numbers. Too many competitors coming down the pipeline which has been mentioned in other threads which will drive cost down. Volvo doesn't have the brand cache yet to have that consumer pricing power. Hopefully the first gen of the upcoming Volvo EVs will be right from that get go, great car with great price to its competitors. Remember you are not only competing for shares of other EVs in the market but consumers of ICE vehicles. Ofcourse, there will be exceptions, Volvo enthusiast and such... which will be minor in the grand scheme of things.
This is awesome to hear, SPA2 based cars will be EV only. One that is the right direction and no in-between. There will always be challenges and adjustment similar to when Tesla started. charging infrastructure, etc... If there is demand and the play on clean green energy, the infrastructure will be made, 1000%.
Now, lets see that new Volvo Concept Recharge translate closely into reality, cause your sister brand has one fine looking vehicle in the Precept if what Polestar says translate as closely as to what was show in the Precept design.
On a tangent, I respect people's different views/perspective but I often find it interesting when a person explicitly stated IN WRITING on their platform what he intends to do. Then another person sees it as a head fake or a diversion. Maybe or maybe not, but until then wouldn't you take the person for his/her word unless he/she has proven otherwise. That's integrity. If they have proven in the past that they are not a person of integrity then I would agree it maybe something else... Just saying.
Now, lets see that new Volvo Concept Recharge translate closely into reality, cause your sister brand has one fine looking vehicle in the Precept if what Polestar says translate as closely as to what was show in the Precept design.
On a tangent, I respect people's different views/perspective but I often find it interesting when a person explicitly stated IN WRITING on their platform what he intends to do. Then another person sees it as a head fake or a diversion. Maybe or maybe not, but until then wouldn't you take the person for his/her word unless he/she has proven otherwise. That's integrity. If they have proven in the past that they are not a person of integrity then I would agree it maybe something else... Just saying.
I believe that's the Lyriq concept you posted there. The production differs very slightly and remains true to the concept, the Lyriq is more SUV like in profile.
Just looking at those two black and white pictures posted above, side by side with the V90 Cross Country. To me, the Volvo Concept is weirdly station wagon like vibe but not. Not a station wagon nor an SUV. The one thing remains will it be faithful once it reaches production? Or is it just a design ethos... will see.
I agree with your sentiment with regards to the Lyriq. It looks good from my perspective. Wonder when GM will release the two motor variant...
On a tangent, Lotus just teased their all electric lineup. Something interesting coming out of the Geely umbrella. Hmmm... the first Lotus EV SUV will be interesting.
This coming years are going to be interesting for potential EV consumers. I love it.
On a tangent, Lotus just teased their all electric lineup. Something interesting coming out of the Geely umbrella. Hmmm... the first Lotus EV SUV will be interesting.
This coming years are going to be interesting for potential EV consumers. I love it.
I agree in general with your view of GM as a whole, execution, etc... but the Bolt is a different platform from the Ultium based Lyriq, and upcoming vehicles like the EV Hummer SUT/SUV, etc...
There are a few good brands out there with good products, if you have the means and it suits your taste. EV revolution is coming. Thank Tesla for that, IMO.
Maybe this time, things will change and improve for the better. There are more female buyers in automobile than males recently in the US. I need to find that article as it was written not long ago.
Lol.Personally, I'm looking forward to actual names. Alphanumeric names sound so clinical to me (Toyota bZ4X anyone?).
The king/queen of cold numeric/one letter labels are the Germans. S Class, 3 Series, A7. They built their whole automobile empire around it.
I agree with @02s80 they can call it whatever as long as the car delivers it’s purpose. IMO, few will care.
Even in the challenging times that the world is in, the one thing that creates some brand awareness are concept cars. And Volvo is short of it right now. I UNDERSTAND the importance of the message that they (Volvo/Polestar) are creating with sustainability but at the end of the day they create mobility products.
[Edit] All this time would have been as close to perfect timing for Volvo designers to shine.
If they don't have them, the majority of consumers will move on. To be quite frank, outside of the educated and informed, a few, cares about the platform they are on and so forth. They are selling points but if the product doesn't look good (Exterior, interior, drive, ev range, etc...) the consumer have options especially with EVs coming left and right in the NEAR TERM.
[Edit] All this time would have been as close to perfect timing for Volvo designers to shine.
If they don't have them, the majority of consumers will move on. To be quite frank, outside of the educated and informed, a few, cares about the platform they are on and so forth. They are selling points but if the product doesn't look good (Exterior, interior, drive, ev range, etc...) the consumer have options especially with EVs coming left and right in the NEAR TERM.
Volvo, before they launched the SPA and CMA cars, had numerous concepts derived from the design language of the concept coupe. That’s what peak my interest and attracted me to the brand.
They probably hope the recharge concept has the same reaction, but as you said, the lukewarm reception probably sent them back to the drawing board. Cmmn even Nissan/Infiniti is teasing a concept EV line up. And that company is a mess.
*** The precept is just drop dead gorgeous, IMO. Lol
Very curious to see what the next gen of wagons from Volvo will look like. IMO, the V60 wagon is the epitome of the current spa/cma Scandinavian design language. Next time....
I literally had to look what embalming meant and probably few outside that works in that field understands it.
As for Volvo, it's a little disappointing that they haven't taken these past two years as an opportunity to send a message and showcase their version of the future. We get the sustainability message and all that ESG handbags carpets, pet, etc.... But you are in the car/mobility business. So outside of the concept recharge what do you have.... just go back to where you were recently, Volvo Concept Coupe, XC Concept, etc... you don't need to be physically together to collaborate on those. I'm sure it helps but brainstorming ideas over video is the here and now.
It's a failure on Volvo management to get that message out.... IMO.
This pitch/description is very similar to what the Cross Country is for (Something along the lines of.... somebody that wants a car that has the ride height but doesn't want an SUV)? Interesting how differentiated the wagon is (Without the body cladding, etc...). IMO, Volvo needs to have a wagon (in the classical sense) as part of their ethos.
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