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Hi everyone,

New(ish) owner here, been reading the forum a lot! Igot my Rebel blue V60 Polestar in mid October on a whim. I had just sold my mint '03 Saab 9-5 Aero wagon and had an order in for a manual transmission Golf TDI wagon...sold the Saab the day before Dieselgate hit, and well, we all know how that went...

Needless to say, the Polestar was on my list of dream cars so I went for it. From the Porsche 911 like sound at start up, to the insane pull in Sport mode, I'm pretty much smitten. A little smaller inside than my Saab, but it's amazing what going from a well kept 13 year old car to new one feels like.

Apart from a minor vibration in the driver's door speaker (turn down the bass, I know), I have driven it 1500 miles and the time has come to soften the shocks for LA's horrendous brittle concrete roads.

Factory setting is F10 and R10. I've read 13 front and rear is a good compromise. Has anyone done this, or gone softer to 15? Adverse affect on handling? I'm also conscious of the hard ride eventually causing squeaks and rattles over time too.

My dealer's trained Polestar technician said the shock adjustment "only adjusts the height of the shock," so something tells me I will have to educate him on this. Hmm....

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Paul
 

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Door speakers are appalling quality. That's universal. Just keep getting them replaced at every service opportunity and perhaps some day Volvo will think to switch to a version that can handle even medium bass.

Yes, the harder shocks will cause more rattles and faster.

I have been using 13/13 for quite a while for the same reason you are contemplating. The ride is still much firmer than a "normal" sports sedan or even sports car. If you learn how to adjust the dampers yourself (not difficult), you can just keep softening them until the right compromise for you is reached. The car works on any setting--you are just choosing the ride versus handling versus control balance. Yes, control is the third leg of the stool. Dampers that are too stiff on bumpy or slippery surfaces work worse than softer ones if going fast is your goal. However, there probably isn't a damper out there available on a street car that is better at handling sharp bumps while maintaining control than the Ohlins' we have on the P*. So unless you are going on lots of broken-pavement secondary and tertiary roads, just keep softening until you get to the right comfort level. Even at 20/20 the P* will still out-handle most cars on the road.
 

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Congrats on the car! In addition to what Marc said, you can also play with the balance of the car to determine what suits you. The rear end is definitely stiffer than the front, so a balanced setup will lead to a stiffer rear end. Changing the balance will greatly affect the handling of the car as well.

If you have not already seen it, motorhead and others put together a great thread with pictures showing how to adjust the suspension here, http://forums.swedespeed.com/showthread.php?236936-Polestar-Suspension-Adjustment-Procedure. It includes all of the standard Suspension settings from P*.
 

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Polestar tech's are self trained on the fly ,( thru there "vida" system)
No formal in class training was offered initially
Hope full will Volvo move forward with some classic hands on training

On the near term, Rich Forsythe at momentum, Texas

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I'd start with Polestar's recommendations and go from there. For rough roads they suggest 15/13 F/R, and the comfort setting is 20/15. I've tried both and currently have them on the comfort setting. I also tried even on both ends, 13/13, and found that the ride was a little choppy. The front and rear weren't settling at the same time so it gave the impression that the ride was rougher. Even would probably work better in a situation where the motion ratios of the front and rear suspension were similar, but with the struts up front, close to a motion ratio of 1, and the multi-link rear, the settings aren't as straight forward without knowing a lot more information. That's why I went with the Polestar settings. They designed the suspension and set the valving on the shocks, plus did thousands of testing miles.
 

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Word of warning. When I was on 15 front, I experience a few instances of bottoming out of the suspension (the bump stops were maxed out with a loud bang) on the extremest of bad NYC roads. I have not seen that again since going no softer than 12. But that may be isolated to only those with the worst roads.
 

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Word of warning. When I was on 15 front, I experience a few instances of bottoming out of the suspension (the bump stops were maxed out with a loud bang) on the extremest of bad NYC roads. I have not seen that again since going no softer than 12. But that may be isolated to only those with the worst roads.
Good point. The Polestar settings are designed for Europe, not North America with its isolated spots of unbelievably awful/should-be-illegal unmaintained pavement.
 

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Catch a glimpse of the 2015 Volvo S60 Polestar ($60,240) while you can. With only 40 of these panting Nordic tuner sedans coming to the U.S. for model year 2015, they are going to be rarer than Newt Gingrich canvassers.

And yet I think that number is just about right. This car is an incredibly specific consumer choice. Your fingerprints really have to match.

For example, the color. I am blissfully ignorant of the latest science on color preference and perception. However, based on my lifetime's observation of the automobile, a statistically insignificant number of people love this color. About 40, I'd say.

But wait, isn't that French Racing Blue, one of the noble hues of international motor sport, the livery of prewar Bugattis and Talbot-Lagos? It's true the Polestar division's signature color is right on top of Bleu de France on the Pantone chart. Volvo calls its trademarked shade "Rebel Blue."

But it's one thing to see a car this color on the grid of Monaco in 1937 and another to own one in, say, Houston. In your average parking deck, from hundreds of feet away, the Polestar absolutely radiates blue. Is someone cooling nuclear fuel rods over there? Is it a hyperborean event, a breach in The Wall? Why so blue?

Polestar is the Swedish company's motor sports and performance brand partner, according to the propaganda. These special-edition cars are knocked together on the assembly line right alongside the regular sedans and wagons, the S's and V's, there in Torslanda.

No danger of getting parts mixed up. All Polestar sedans are the same shade of sobriety-test blue; a few of the 80 wagons to be built will be dipped in sapphire black.

I will now lay out the ways the Polestar edition is better and badder than the standard-edition S60 sedan, as it should be, given its five-figure price difference. However, I'm stipulating, it's all about the paint job.

The inline-six has been breathed upon with fortuitous software, so it makes 345-hp, a bump of 40 hp over the S60 T6 R-Design. Otherwise, it's the same six-speed torque-converter equipped automatic-no manual transmission available-and downstream the familiar Haldex all-wheel drive with electronically controlled clutch-based differential. Polestar's engineers imbued the Haldex with more rear-biased torque, meaning more engine force can be shunted to the rear wheels under acceleration.

However, we are still talking about a transverse-engine, predominantly front-drive architecture with more than 60% of vehicle weight over the front wheels. The Polestar retains the S60's stable under-steering character, only at a higher level of grip and composure.

The suspension has been thoroughly hacked-stiffer springs and bushings, as well as manually adjustable Ohlins front dampers with blowoff valves to help recover from high velocity events more quickly. Not to mention six-pot Brembo front brakes and Michelin Pilot Super Sport 245/35-20's that you could put on Ingmar Bergman's coffin and make it handle.

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The inline-six has been breathed upon with fortuitous software, so it makes 345-hp, a bump of 40 hp over the S60 T6 R-Design.
Out on the road the S60 is a growling, swearing adolescent Viking. Zero-60 mph acceleration blows by in a creditable 4.7 seconds, says Volvo. Keep the boot down and the car will hit 120 mph in 16.6 seconds, after which the Swedish police will confiscate your car, your fish house and your collection of pickled herring.

The Polestar offers what I think of as classic Nordic turbo lag, with a mild acceleration come-on at lower rpm and then-wooshHING SKOONAVERrrrrr…The turbo starts making power and the acceleration squeezes you into the seat. It's kind of fun, like a large, blue yo-yo with a $600-a-month car payment. But the Volvo's spiraling power curve does oblige you to plan as you overtake a truck on a country road, leaving enough room for the turbos to fully spool before you pass. You have to fling the yo-yo at the right moment.

To be sure the Polestar will stand up, making 369 pound-feet between 2,800-4,750 rpm, and beat out a metallic rasp like a BMW with loose bolts in the muffler. Keep the turbo on the boil, dive into a corner, scurry and claw out. HHUnnnngHHVARRRR! ….These are not in any way my tires.

The weak link is the six-speed automatic. It's a nice-enough gearbox-commanded with some lovely, pewter-like paddle shifters behind the steering wheel-but it tends to do too much thinking, with a lot of latency and delay. Particularly dilatory is the downshifting.

The Polestar's enthusiast resume is lacking a six-speed manual option. What, were they afraid it would suppress demand from 40?

It only underscores the Polestar's ambivalence about sport generally. Indeed, all the go-fast parts-the deeper chin splitter compared with the standard car; the rictus of black mesh lower grille; the sort-of spoiler and rear diffuser; an assortment of Polestar badges-further deepen the mystery. The S60 Polestar emerges from the parts bin looking not a whole lot different than the standard car, its Scandinavian dignity fully intact, albeit wildly, psychotically blue.

Great seats, nice stereo, heated seats and steering wheel, electric-blue thread in the supple Nubuck upholstery, indirect and ambient lighting like the blue of calving ice.

Very nice. All that notwithstanding, what you're looking at is a $11,600 paint job over the S60 T6 AWD R-Design Platinum, so you can join the Smurf patrol.

But that's facile. I want to challenge you with the idea that, for those 40 people, the Polestar will be worth every penny. This isn't a car, it's a color-cognitive manifesto, a personal chromatic thesis, the hue of destiny. Maybe it's a past-life memory, or a favorite shirt or the color of a beloved dog's cataracts. Whatever, these 40 people love them some blue.

For the rest of us, the rift in the Polestar's cosmology is this: If you wanted a sleeper performance car, why would you paint it a color that can wake the dead?

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Catch a glimpse of the 2015 Volvo S60 Polestar ($60,240) while you can. With only 40 of these panting Nordic tuner sedans coming to the U.S. for model year 2015, they are going to be rarer than Newt Gingrich canvassers....

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Stop it, just stop it! Not only are you randomly posting things on threads that have nothing to do with what the thread is about, but you are taking other people's articles and posting them in full without giving them credit. This is Dan Neil's article. It is full of errors and has been posted before. What is it you are trying to accomplish?
 

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Its a nice article...I know Dan very well.,, relax

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No it's a horrible article full of errors. If he did even a little bit of research he never would have written it. He clearly wanted to write about the color so ignored the fact that the Sedan was actually available in both Black and Blue in the US and Available in 4 colors worldwide.
 

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I reported that post if that [ahem] 'review', asking for a deletion. It's copyrighted material. And ridiculously off the topic of shock adjustment. But p50 ... you had to quote the whole thing?!
 

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I reported that post if that [ahem] 'review', asking for a deletion. It's copyrighted material. And ridiculously off the topic of shock adjustment. But p50 ... you had to quote the whole thing?!
Fixed, sorry
 

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I had a good laugh at the irony of it at least.
 

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P50GT got the point across. I found the irony to be funny. Thanks paring down the quote though. :)

Back on topic, I have left my settings at 10 on all corners. Don't know how much better the roads are here in the SF Bay Area compared to LA. Then again I'm mostly on highways and primary roads. It's a good balance between responsive spirited driving and crawling through rush hour without rattling my teeth. These Öhlins are worth their weight in gold!
 
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