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As topic says.. New to this world.. I'm looking to "get into" a volvo wagon and dont know much about them.. Ive always owned and driven VW's but i would like some thing with a little more class now so im loking into the volvo world.. I know i want a wagon, more so i think an 850r?? Is that right?? Im lookin to spend about 15grand... what can i expext to get? what should i look for?? etc etc etc.... are there and different fuel amnagement systems from year to year that are more tunable then others? stuff like that... anyways thanks in advance.. http://********************/smile/embeer.gif
 

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Re: New to the Volvo Thing (Volkstermk2)

Well, the 850r's are very nice. Fully loaded is most if not all cases. FWD, 240hp/221lb ft. '97 was the last year for the 850's. You can most likely find a 97 855r(8 being the series, 5 being # of cylinders, 5 being # of doors) for around 15grand. Obviously you pay less for an earlier R version or for a non R. Coming from a VW, you will like the FWD. They have a lot of power and a bit of potential for more power. You won't find a manual version most likely. They are all in Canada and not many made it there.
 

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Re: New to the Volvo Thing (omega6_virus)

Here are some basic differences.

850 - if you want performance you'll want an 850 Turbo, 850 T5, 850 R or 850 T-5R. They all use the high pressure turbo setup and all came in wagon form. The engine power differences between them only about 20hp between the turbo/t5 and the R/T5R is all ecu, and if you do a chip upgrade or exhaust, the resulting hp should be identical.

The Turbo and T-5 had 16" wheels generally, and options ranged, so options like sport suspension etc. are nice to have but not always there. The turbo and T5 are basically the same car.

The R and T5R are almost the same car. They had a higher hp engine (all ECU), bigger front airdam with foglights (useless as they are), 17-inch wheels (commonly curb rashed or swapped for smaller wheels), an even more aggressive sport suspension, rear wing, aluminum door sills, heavily optioned with alcantara interior (on the bolsters, kinda useless in the T5R, on the seat centers and more gripping in the R). The T5R came in yellow and black only and was sold in 1995 only with 5-spoke Titan wheels (check the section of Swedespeed by following this path resources/gallery/wheels/5X108 17" for pics). The R had alcantara in the seat centers (more gripping), 17" Volan alloys (more spokes, different design, also in gallery), and was available in red, white and black. For the wagon, the rest is identical. The R sedan had a larger rear spoiler. A tan interior was optional on these cars, but the wood trim (looks like faux birch) is rather unattractive IMHO. They were produced from 1996-1997. The most common prob for all of these cars was constantly warping brakes. I upgraded mine to new pads and slotted rotors, which fixed the prob, but IPD http://www.ipdusa.com now has a very inexpensive S80 brake upgrade for 850s and the older 70 series cars that I would probably choose nowadays.

V70 R AWD These were produced from 98 to 2000. They are based on the V70 Mk I (basically 850 platform, but more refined and less prone to interior creaks and rattles, I think the chassis is more rigid also). They have a Viscous Coupling AWD that is great for traction, though does add a weight penalty and can be tempramental if tire rotation and replacement guidelines aren't followed. Still, these are great cars. The interior has a cross hatch stitched alcantara inserts in the seat centers, aluminum dash trim, blue colored R gauges. The engine is higher hp and the tranny (I think, someone might want to verify this) is rated for higher hp and torque levels than the 850 versions. There's also a cool engine cover that says R on it. Wheels varied from 16s to 17s depending on what you get. I've seen higher mileage (near 100K) well kept versions of this car going for under $15K, so that's why I mention it.

They all came with auto trannys. There are extremely rare manual R cars that have filtered through from Canada, but I could probably count them on one hand.

Also in the V70 is the V70 T-5. It's FWD rather than AWD and came with 16" wheels. A manual on this is rare but obtainable. A special edition V70 T5 SE (special edition) also came with wood steering wheel and alcantara seats. You might find these in your price range also in older or higher mileage cars and they were made the same years as the V70R AWD (1998-2000) but the SE was only in 99 I believe (please someone correct me there if I am wrong).

Welcome to Swedespeed. Good luck in your search. I think you'll be most pleased with how much car you can get for the money. If you are willing to go with a sedan, it gets cheaper. The wagons tend to hold their values. There is no S70R AWD in the US BTW in case you do consider a sedan.
 

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I would consider a sedan, reason id like a wagon is cause my wife and i have baby #2 on the way and i thought it would be nice to have. Id like to retain either fwd or rwd, less moving parts means to me cheaper to fix and less likely to break in the first place or am i wrong?? Id really like to have a 5spd though too, you say very rare in US?? damn, kinda like trying to find passat synco g60 in the us too..... say if i only wanted to spend 10? would that get me into a nice turbo sedan?? Ive been looking but cant seem to find much, ive looked on here too but looks like most for sale is either old or really new..... The body style i want is like the one val kilmer had in the movie the saint, or like the touring car thats on this site somewhere right now on one of the boards... can you tell me what that is??? remember, im new at this stuff so the year codes and stuff will be like me trying to read swahelian..... its like me saying yeah i just sold a A3 vento glx..... so if yall could keep it simple for my dumbass it would be great.. http://********************/smile/emsmile.gif http://********************/smile/emcocktl.gif
 

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Re: New to the Volvo Thing (Volkstermk2)

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are the 1994 and 1995 850 wagons available with the turbo motor or is it just the sedan?? http://********************/smile/emcrook.gif
Turbo was available in both sedan and station wagons for MY1994 and MY1995 850s.

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Re: New to the Volvo Thing (GrecianVolvo)

the sites I'd also watch looking for a used volvo are

http://www.ipdusa.com
http://www.autotrader.com
http://www.classifieds2000.com
http://www.ebay.com

The manual S70 or V70 T5 are fairly rare, but WERE sold in the USA, so not as rare as a Passat G60 Syncro. A manual 850R, that's more like the Passat G60.

I don't think Volvo sold manual 850 Turbos or T5s in the US, so if you want the high pressure turbo and a manual in one of these cars, go with the S70 T5 (sedan) or V70 T5 wagon. BTW, only way to get that down near 10K is to buy it with high mileage.
 

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you guys have been a ton of help.. I'm going to look for an s70 or v70, they seem to be a great buy.... I'll probably end up spending as much time here as the vwvortex forum now.. I was also looking at that IPD website, are there claims true on that ECU upgrade?? i think the least amount of gain i saw at the wheels was like a 30hp increase, i mean holy crap, thats actually a good amount of pony.. especially like the 850r 53 hp gain... hmm seems a bit much just from some remapping.... or it maybe totally different from what im used to..
 

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If you compare IPD's numbers with numbers from other tuners, you'll find theirs is not the highest hp setup. However, if you're famililar with VWs, then you know there is all sorts of programming out there.

I'd compare IPD/TME to APR in the VW realm. It's a great out of the box system if you want to do an upgrade and maybe an exhaust and leave it at that. If you plan to do all sorts of oddball mods and get intricate, there are others (GIAC included, also from the VW realm) who can custom program.

The thing I like about IPD is it's a bullet proof package. I had no CE lights when I had my 850R, and they offer a money back guarantee.
 

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I know garret can burn anything for anything but usually charges a butt load for it too.. GIAC is really good stuff Matrix would probably charge me in the realm of 700 for the chip and dyno time.... Thansk for the comparison...

iPD seems to be the way to go with thier reputation and knowledge...

Think i better buy a volvo before i start getting too crazy on this subject.. http://********************/smile/emwink.gif
 
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