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I'm done with American cars and after doing some research, have decided that the best 7 passenger vehicle candidate for my wifemay be is XC90...if it's as good as advertised. I feel that the 2.5T is a bit small for the mass of the XC90, but I've never had a turbo before. AWD is desirable and so is decent MPG.<p>Your thoughts? How long should this car last for a driver who puts no more than 12,000 /yr?<p>What is maintanence like?<p>Thanks!<p>
 

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Re: New to the Forum and considering the XC90... (JonR)

The 2.5T is a very nice engine with a long history of reliability. It is perfectly adequate for the XC90 unless you want to drag race it or tow a lot on hilly country. It also offers the best mileage.<p>You should try both engines and see which one feels better to you. A heads up: if you never drove a turbo before, it may take you a little bit of time to adjust to the gas responsiveness.<p>So far, our T6 has been essentially trouble free (one early case of a broken pipe). The S60 with the 2.5T engine has been 100% trouble free.<p>Happy hunting! Hope you find what you're looking for.
 

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Re: New to the Forum and considering the XC90... (ig_mb)

Not being funny, but the V8 offers the same gas mileage as the T6. The big plus is the power (when required).<p>My advise is to explore all the options prior to your purchase. The XC90 is a great vehicle. <p>Best of Luck.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: New to the Forum and considering the XC90... (volvogeek1)

<p>We have the T5 and it is great. Have even pull a 1500lb trailer from CA to TX, it would stay at speed limit even in the hills(thx to the turbo). If you need a fast car to make up for some other issue then the V8 is for you. We havent found a need to drag race to pick up the kids, T5 has plenty of power. If you need a tow vehicle then get a truck, doubt the car transmission in the XC90 will hold up to major towning anywhere near the rated limit.
 

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Re: New to the Forum and considering the XC90... (JonR)

Also, the 2007(?) will also have a 6-cylinder. More HP than the 2.5, but I haven't seen anything about MPG. According to the messages I have seen here, the V8 actually gets better mileage on the highway than the 2.5 does. Not sure about city driving though...
 

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I returned home to find many postings after my own. Thanks for the responses. <p>In answer to the towing question, we will tow a light trailer with two light dirtbikes once in a while...not very often.<p>Mostly this is a reward for my lovely wife of 40 that has to double as a Lacrosse and Juijitsu bus for my 3 kid,s after school sports.<p>We will test drive tomorrow. I'll let you folks know what we think after that.<p>
 

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I personally recommend the V8, as I currently own the V8 and got to drive the 2.5 quite a bit and I get almost the same gas mileage with a lot more power and much smoother in my opinion. Both are very nice. I just drove the 2.5 for a couple of days as a loaner and I was getting better mileage in my V8 than i got in the 2.5.
 

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<p>6-cyl may be a option, but decide if you want to be a beta tester for a new power train. That was one of the reasons we chose the 2.5. Long track record with the engine and trans.
 

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Re: New to the Forum and considering the XC90... (JonR)

Our XC90 is at 51,000 miles after 20 months in service. Cabin quiet, no creaks or rattles. It has been an unexpectedly reliable car: still on original pads & rotors; 3rd seat A/C blower motor failed & replaced; right rear position light failed & replaced; nothing else! 18-19 mpg usual in our small city; 22-24 mpg intercity highway 65-75 mph. Live at end of a 1/3 mile graded road with corduroys; chassis no louder than previous Grand Cherokees. I never expected anything so good; bought mainly for passenger capacity (children & grandchildren) and safety, would definitely buy again.<p>5cyl absolutely OK for our purposes: live in mountains of west at 7,000 feet; no performance problems even when hauling 7 people and luggage.<p>Avoid 18" wheels if you can; replacement tire options are few in that size, many with 17" wheels.
 

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Re: New to the Forum and considering the XC90... (JonR)

Each of the above replies has good points. Here's my two-cents worth.<p>Before our V8, we had a 350 Suburban. The only thing I miss is being able to truck 4 x 8 sheets of drywall or plywood. <p>Gas mileage for our V8 = 14 city, 22 hwy - with a 'normal' right foot.<p>V8 or 2.5 T ?<br>2.5T = around $10k less.<br>2.5T is turbo, thus power does not come on as linear as V8. Changing lanes from standstill with full-load may be slower.<br>2.5T is a great engine, but it will work harder to do the same job as the V8.<br>V8 had tons of power - never seems stressed. V8 is smoother and quieter than 2.5T.<br>2.5T has better mileage around town.<p>Our V8 has been trouble free. So has every loaner Volvo we've received during service or for recall items. We feel a lot safer in this car than we did in our 1999 'Burban.<p>I agree with above post that 17" rims have better choice of replacement tires.<br> I also agree with someone above that 3.2 is untried engine. Were it me, I'd plump for a V8 (if you've got the bread) or a tried-and-true 2.5T. A late model 2.5T might have better than usual re-sale value for a turbo-buff (unless 3.2 turn out to be a killer engine).<p><br>Bottom line - try them both yourself. I think you'll be happy with either.<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>p.s. to answer your questions - (a) I'd suggest the car might last at least 8 yr without major service issues (that's why we bought the extended warranty to 100k for $2k). Maybe not as good as an old 240, but the newer cars are much more sophisticated - different beasts. (b) service can be hit or miss depending on where you go. I'd suggest you ask the list for suggestions as to a reliable local service near you. We use Volvo of Orange County, service mgr Ben Dailey, and they are superb; a true white-glove service, with no quibbles.
 

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Re: New to the Forum and considering the XC90... (rnb)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>rnb</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Avoid 18" wheels if you can; replacement tire options are few in that size, many with 17" wheels.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Hmmm. Well, the options in 255/55-18 are fairly large. (Search Tirerack.com by tire size at 255/55-18; you will find a larger selection than if you search for either the 17 inch or 18 inch OEM sizes for Volvo XC90. The 255/55-18 tire will fit and not cause problematic speedo/odo readings.) I personally have a set of Michelin 4x4 Diamaris on my XC90V8 and don't have any regrets at all.
 

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Re: New to the Forum and considering the XC90... (avolvofan)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>avolvofan</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Hmmm. Well, the options in 255/55-18 are fairly large. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I agree. I wouldn't recommend JUST getting the 17 rims because of selection choices.<p>I only recommend getting the 17" rims because the 'at least' $1500 touring package is a TOTAL ripoff unless you've just got to also have the volvo specific rim, volvo wood, leather knob, and a more powerful amp with a center speaker. The stereo overall is still the same piece of junk. Think about it. The 17" vs 18" rims cost next to nothing in difference. It's like you're buying new rims and tires all over again and not getting to keep the original ones. If you're buying the touring ONLY because you really want 18" rims you'd probably be better off getting the 17" rims, buying an 18" package and then immediately selling the 17"s on ebay. Plus, you'd have a wider selection of rims to choose from.<p>
 

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Re: New to the Forum and considering the XC90... (pattyweb)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pattyweb</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The stereo overall is still the same piece of junk.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Amen to that. The $1,500 for the package would get a full set of 18 inch rims, tires and ceramic pads from Tirerack. Depending on where you live, there might be some savings on shipping expense.
 

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Re: New to the Forum and considering the XC90... (pattyweb)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pattyweb</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I agree. I wouldn't recommend JUST getting the 17 rims because of selection choices.<p>I only recommend getting the 17" rims because the 'at least' $1500 touring package is a TOTAL ripoff unless you've just got to also have the volvo specific rim, volvo wood, leather knob, and a more powerful amp with a center speaker. The stereo overall is still the same piece of junk. Think about it. The 17" vs 18" rims cost next to nothing in difference. It's like you're buying new rims and tires all over again and not getting to keep the original ones. If you're buying the touring ONLY because you really want 18" rims you'd probably be better off getting the 17" rims, buying an 18" package and then immediately selling the 17"s on ebay. Plus, you'd have a wider selection of rims to choose from.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I disagree, everything you listed above is well worth the price of the package. <p>Just my 4 cents.<p>Tim <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: New to the Forum and considering the XC90... (t6tim)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pattyweb</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I only recommend getting the 17" rims because the 'at least' $1500 touring package is a TOTAL ripoff unless you've just got to also have the volvo specific rim, volvo wood, leather knob, and a more powerful amp with a center speaker. The stereo overall is still the same piece of junk. ... </TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>t6tim</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I disagree, everything you listed above is well worth the price of the package.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>And that's why it is called an OPTION.<p>FWIW, I agree with Tim: even considering the stereo shortcomings, the option is worth it to me.
 

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Re: New to the Forum and considering the XC90... (JonR)

We drive exactly 12000/yr, all non-scheduled maintenance items have been minor, except steering rack replacement at 16k (warranty)
 

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The car is great. <p>However the only thing premium about the premium sound system is the price. You won't get any kind of dynamics unless you turn it up more than 1/2 way - then it's too loud.<br>
 

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Got the 2.5T, its been fine but its a bit underpowered. I'd wait for the 3.2 I6 w/ 6-speed.
 

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Have you gone in and adjusted the equalizer settings? This made a huge difference in the sound in my opinion and I didn't know it was their for a couple of weeks. By the way we love our V8, best SUV we have ever owned, dealership has been great so far!
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>C130</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have you gone in and adjusted the equalizer settings? This made a huge difference in the sound in my opinion and I didn't know it was their for a couple of weeks. By the way we love our V8, best SUV we have ever owned, dealership has been great so far!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>In addition to adjusting the pair of equalizer settings, I also adjusted the additional separate fader, treble, bass and subwoofer settings. The difference in quality was significant, IMO. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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