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Okay, well the time isn't really here, but around febuary-march, my parents plan on purchasing a new sedan for my mom. If you remember a while back, I posted asking for your comments on the S4 vs. c70 cabriolet. But ever since my neighbor bought a 540, I put the idea of owning a BMW in her head.(Don't worry Yannis, I know it means BMTroubleYou). Now that my sister is back from college and has heard about this idea, she says 7series only. Nothing else. Thats fine with me because now I have opened my mom to the idea of owning a car around 70k. I know that is a HUGE jump from the 40k price of an s4, but my dad works on contract and is certain he will be working for another year. My parents plan to pay for the car all at once. So what I am asking is probably a question of fanticy to everyone here, "What would you buy for around 70k?" I know most would say a t5 or some other nice volvo and use the rest on mods, I would like to do that too, but we can't in this case. This is a serious question, not a joke or a lie, its possible we may just get a 45k car and let my dad get his Mini Cooper S ealier, but who knows, I think he wouldl like the idea of a 7series even though they have that i-drive crap.
 

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First off, I know that I am in the minority, but I really like the new 7 Series, I think it is distinctive.<P>What I would recommend is to drive one. Yes, I know that brand and status are important, but when you are going to be driving a vehicle on a daily basis, you have to feel comfortable with the vehicle, regardless of what anyone else says. Therefore, tell her to choose amongst a group of vehicles she likes and then choose the vehicle after she has driven it. <P>She is in an excellent position, there are some great cars out there for that price, 7-Series, the new E-Class, the Volvo S80, Lexus LS 430 some coupes such as the Lexus SC 430 and the MB CLK. All these cars are really good, its all a matter of perference and trade off between performance and ride. Tell her to take her time and learn where these vehicle fit into her preferences.<P>My one question is, why purchase it outright. Look at how many miles she drives and how long she usually holds onto her vehicles. If she usually keeps them for 4 to 5 years, a lease may be better because if she purchases a 7 Series and then attempts to sell it after 4 years, the amount of depreciation of the vehicle may come as a shock. The Mercedes is likely to hold on its value more than the BMW. If she is looking to keep these cars for longer, she should expect some high maintenance and repair bills after the 4 year warranty period. These vehicles have very complex electronics that can be costly when then malfunction. If she is planning on holding onto a vehicle for more than 4 years and wishes minimize the chance of costly repairs, then a Lexus GS 430, LS 430 or SC 430 may be a good bet.<P>Keep us updated.
 

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I noticed that my friend has trouble fitting his baby's stroller in the 5-series sedan because the trunk is a little smallish...but he loves the power.<p>[This message has been edited by mpeng168 (edited 09-10-2002).]
 

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$70k? Hello Viper! <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/biggrin.gif"> <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/tongue.gif"><P>I would say to consider the Mercedes E55, but I just went to Mercedes's website and found that they no longer make that model <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/frown.gif"> That leaves but one choice, BMW M5 <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/biggrin.gif"> Then again, you might not be able to find one at sticker price.<P>Of course, there's always the more mild E500. I personally don't care for the new 7-series. Too high-tech for me. Every time I see one parked I look inside and I have yet to find the shifter <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/confused.gif"><P>
 

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My sister, her boyfriend, and I went to our local BMW dealer two weeks ago and checked out the new 7-series. Volvo and BMW are the same dealer, so it is nice. My sister is interested in the E66 as well, but it ended up being a total turn-off.<P>IMHO, the car doesn't look anywhere as nice as the E65 Sport. We all sat in the car and the salesperson tried to show us the i-Drive system, but he couldn't get anything to work properly. He tried changing radio stations, changing the ECC, etc...but was more confused than I was.<P>I can't imagine trying to fool with this thing while driving. If you really want a new E66, I would wait until next year's models come out. Go and check Bimmer.org to see how many people have had their cars bought back and how many problems they are having with their cars, it is insane. A lot of them have traded in for the LS430.<P>Unfortunately we didn't get to drive the E66, but I have heard that it drives like a true BMW, which is great. <P>If I were to spend 70k, I would much rather have an M5, E65 740i Sport, or E500 over a new E66. Or you could always wait for the next gen 5-Series, but who know's if it will be good or not. There is risk involved.<P>Besides the M5, the E65 740i Sport is one of the best BMW's ever made IMHO. Beautiful and classy car, just totally bad arse...<P> <IMG SRC="http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/preview/pr/proautos/P8302621.JPG"> <P>-Drew<P>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ascari:<BR><B>My one question is, why purchase it outright. Look at how many miles she drives and how long she usually holds onto her vehicles. If she usually keeps them for 4 to 5 years, a lease may be better because if she purchases a 7 Series and then attempts to sell it after 4 years, the amount of depreciation of the vehicle may come as a shock. The Mercedes is likely to hold on its value more than the BMW. If she is looking to keep these cars for longer, she should expect some high maintenance and repair bills after the 4 year warranty period. These vehicles have very complex electronics that can be costly when then malfunction. If she is planning on holding onto a vehicle for more than 4 years and wishes minimize the chance of costly repairs, then a Lexus GS 430, LS 430 or SC 430 may be a good bet.<BR>Keep us updated.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>My parents want to buy the car outright because it was very hard when they were paying payments on my dads 944 and my moms 945. She has had her 945 since 91. She has put over 170k miles on it. My parents are 57,58. They like to keep their cars. The 944 and 945 were their first new cars. Before that they owned 4 used Volvos. I really like the body style of the e65 740. Looks very nice with the tinted windows. I love that look. Bright xenon head lights, and a total black car. I've seen about 3 in my area like that. But both of my parents have a "thing" about purchasing things used. They would rather help me buy new subwoofers than get a great deal on some used ones. <BR>I told her about the new e-class and she seems to like it. I've read up on it and its a very nice car. I'd rather have the MB than the 7 series. My mom doesn't take to new technologies very easily. I'd hate to say this, but I like flashy things, not bling bling though. But cars are a status symbol. Speaking of depreciation, wouldn't the Benz be better in this area? What about an a/s8 with NOS? hehe<BR>But damn do I love that BMW.
 

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M5 should be the best performing car for the price, but the ride won't be as smooth as a new MB E500 of course...<P>Or even that new VW with the weird W12 engine, you should check that out also... but if you got $70k to spend.. well maybe you won't want to drive a VW<P>For your price, you could also consider X5 4.4, M430. I personally hate SUVs but those aren't bad.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by omega6_virus:<BR><B>But damn do I love that BMW.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I can't imagine what that 740i Sport feels like crusing down the highway at 100 and above. I'm sure it sticks like glue and feels as solid as a rock.<P>I am not really much of a Bimmer-person, but having a black 740i Sport and black X5 4.4i Sport in the same garage would make me a happy camper! <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P> <IMG SRC="http://www.petepalmer.com/aca08.23.02/W4743.JPG"> <P>-Drew<P><p>[This message has been edited by InDy (edited 09-10-2002).]
 

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I'd say XC90 T-6 or S80 T-6 if you stick Volvo (smart choice <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/wink.gif">)<BR>Personally I would buy an S40 and a Evo Lancer. Might as well have practibility and a play toy for the money.<P>
 
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