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Here is a comprehensive review of the new Volvo S60 T5! Enjoy! <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P> <IMG SRC="http://www.baynews9.com/carplace/cars/01-vol-s60/01-vol-s60.ss1.jpg"> <BR> <IMG SRC="http://www.baynews9.com/carplace/cars/01-vol-s60/01-vol-s60.ss2.jpg"> <BR> <IMG SRC="http://www.baynews9.com/carplace/cars/01-vol-s60/01-vol-s60.ss3.jpg"> <BR> <IMG SRC="http://www.baynews9.com/carplace/cars/01-vol-s60/01-vol-s60.ss6.jpg"> <P><B><A HREF="http://www.baynews9.com/carplace/cars/01-vol-s60/01-vol-s60.1.shtml" TARGET=_blank>Comprehensive 2001 Volvo S60 T5 Review</A></B><P><B>GOOD STUFF</B><BR>Looks good <BR>Renowned safety<BR>Comfort features<BR>Powerful engine<BR>Radiator coating helps clean the air!<BR>Air vents in B pillars cool rear seat passengers<BR>Fit and finish is impeccable<BR>Fuel efficient<BR>Fast, fast, fast<P><B>BAD STUFF</B><BR>No interior trunk release<BR>Inferior exterior door handle design<BR>Battery location in trunk—covered by a plate<BR>Door locks on window sills<BR>Black paint created all kinds of problems<BR>Torque steer under hard acceleration<BR>Parking brake lever punches driver's ribs on entry<BR>Touchy, touchy remote trunk opener<BR>Touchy, touchy brakes<P>-Drew <P>
 

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Well done Drew...and beautiful shots.<P>Will Volvo EVER figure out how to make these brakes easy to modulate?<P>- Darell<P>
 

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Originally posted by InDy:<BR>Here is a comprehensive review of the new Volvo S60 T5! Enjoy! <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P>You call THAT a "comprehensive review"?!?<BR>But, thanks for posting, nevertheless.<P>HW
 

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Well, that is the most comprehensive online review that I have found thus far, even though it is not very flattering. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"> I agree though, the person who wrote that review did not do a very good job IMHO, but everyone is entitled to an opinion. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P>-Drew<p>[This message has been edited by InDy (edited 02-23-2001).]
 

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For anyone who has not seen these before, click below for a list of online reviews for the 2001 Volvo S60! Enjoy! <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P><B><A HREF="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000003.html" TARGET=_blank>Reviews List for 2001 Volvo S60</A></B><P>-Drew<p>[This message has been edited by InDy (edited 02-23-2001).]
 

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Why is it so critial to have an interior trunk release when you can pull the seatback release and exit through the car?
 

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The review was by the "Car Place" at:<BR> <A HREF="http://www.baynews9.com/carplace/cars/01-vol-s60/01-vol-s60.1.shtml" TARGET=_blank>http://www.baynews9.com/carplace/cars/01-vol-s60/01-vol-s60.1.shtml</A> <P>However, it wasn't very favourable to the S60 as you can gather from the article.<P>Enjoy!!
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Eurastus:<BR><B>hwhelply,<P>There's three long pages there...did you not click on the link?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Yes, of course I clicked on the link. But size/quantity does not necessarily correlate with quality. Content matters. This piece concentrated on exterior door handles, lack of trunk safety release, battery cover plate, etc., etc.--I mean, are we reaching just a bit for something different to report here?!? This provides whole new levels of insight on the meaning of "nit-picking." I'm surpised the reviewer didn't mention that the graphite-color carpet shows dirt easily. Nothing about acceleration time, quarter mile time, stopping distance from 60 or 70 MPH, lateral Gs on cornering, and many other elements of what I would consider an informative review. (And why does nearly every review concentrate on the T-5? Why isn't the 2.4T deserving of more than passing mention? OK, I'm biased on that, having a 2.4T as I do.) Yes, the items mentioned are not insignificant (though the writer admits they are "giggly flaws," whatever that means), but hardly the basis upon which to conclude "Volvo needs to cast a sharper eye on exactly what's available at this lofty price. Indeed, Volvo's safety features are now found on almost every car at this price. So why choose a Volvo S60? <BR>Volvo needs to answer that question with a flawless car. The S60 isn't that car." Bottom line: the assertions and conclusions aren't supported adequately. I'd give it a C+, and that would be generous.<P>HW<P><BR>
 

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HW,<P>I would have given it a C- or D+ in terms of quality and usefulness. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"> You are right, the article "nit-picks" more than having something useful to say.<P>-Drew
 

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I'll try to respond to this "Bad Stuff" with my less-than-comprehensive-yet-somewhat-funny reply (which I'm sure almost everyone that drives an S60 will agree to):<P>No interior trunk release<BR> When the doors are unlocked it's more convenient, because the release switch on the trunk acts more like a car door handle (when you lock up, the doors and trunk don't open from the outside; when you unlock, the doors and trunk can open from the outside)<P>Inferior exterior door handle design<BR> I'm assuming <I>his</I> vehicle has explosive bolts on the door hinges, just so emergency personnel don't have to waste time opening the doors. Seriously, though, if the door is so badly damaged that the S60's handle is not able to open it, then how is a bar-type-handle expected to still be in one piece? Is it just my idea, or can your windows be broken (if they aren't already) after a crash, by the emergency personel, giving them some real leverage?<P>Battery location in trunk—covered by a plate<BR> The engine is, too, covered by a piece of metal. I don't hear anyone else complaining <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"> I think that if the engineers at Volvo believe a piece of metal over the battery is a good idea, then it should be there. But, once again, we are wowed by the reviewer's technical prowess in his well thought out and thorough explanation of, "It's just .. not good." It's just .. not like you need to change your battery every week, or you need to hook up cables to it for jump starting.<P>Door locks on window sills<BR> I'm glad the reviewer found them. I'm also glad he didn't mention that there are tires around the wheels. If he gets "hit" by them when they go down, then moving his arm solves the problem. The same can be said for closing doors. Usually it's a good thing to have all your appendages inside when doors are closed. Insignificant personal preference is what this boils down to. <P>Black paint created all kinds of problems<BR> It usually has a nack of getting dirty quickly, but what kinds of problems does he mean? Does he mean personal problems? I don't think his ability to get a date or get along with people was caused by the color of the car, let alone any kind of mechanical problems. Does this mean it's Volvo's fault? Oh, of corse. One more thing to put under the "Bad" catagory <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P>Torque steer under hard acceleration<BR> FWD + hard acceleration = torque steer ? Bad driver + lead foot = "torque steer" ? <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P>Parking brake lever punches driver's ribs on entry<BR> I've never had this happen to me, so I think it's safe to compare this to saying, "Steering wheel hits driver's sternum on entry." His comment is yet another personal problem that I've never heard complained of before. If he hit his head every time he got in the car, would he also mark that down?<P>Touchy, touchy remote trunk opener<BR> Yet another personal problem. I don't know what he carries around in his pockets, but I've never had the trunk open on me by accident. Besides, he criticizes the button for being raised, but fails to mention you need to hit it TWICE to open it. The screw was probably just tightened too much or he was carrying (his) marbles in his pocket (not suprising). Transmitter = tight screw. Reviewer = loose screw.<P>Touchy, touchy brakes<BR> I wonder if he prefers a few feet of travel? <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"> He says the "touchy" brakes don't aid in stopping distance. That may be true on a track, but in the real world, there's something called reaction time. The quicker we get our foot to the floor, the quicker the car stops. If it doesn't need as much modulation to close down 100%, then that directly equates to shorter stopping distances.<P>So why read the review? This guy needs to answer that question with a flawless review. This one just isn't it.<P>
 

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Originally posted by TheEFFecT:<BR>...So why read the review? This guy needs to answer that question with a flawless review. This one just isn't it.<P>Your rejoinders to the S60 criticisms of "The Car Place" review were nicely done! Incidentally, in fairness, it must be stated that the same writer has produced equally content-free and irrelevant reviews of other makes also. (See <A HREF="http://www.baynews9.com/carplace/cars/01-vw-pas/01-vw-pas.1.shtml.)" TARGET=_blank>http://www.baynews9.com/carplace/cars/01-vw-pas/01-vw-pas.1.shtml.)</A> In that review of the Passat GLX 4Motion, one of two "Bad Stuff" items (I love the highly professional language) was "Needs premium fuel," which he did NOT say about the S60. Maybe he just needed to find something wrong with the Passat (only two "Bad Stuff" points were listed), which he obviously liked better than the S60. Or, maybe he'd point out that the S60 doesn't absolutely NEED premium...nah, he'd never get that technical!<BR>
 

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Anyone concerned about laminated side glass, undeployed/deployed airbags, and anything else related to what happens after your vehicle is in an accident, check out <A HREF="http://www.extrication.com" TARGET=_blank>http://www.extrication.com</A> Very interesting stuff, quoting one section, "It has been documented, that there are incidents<BR> where catastrophic failures of the driver's airbag occurred, resulting in<BR> the fragmentation of the inflator units. Video tapes of actual incidents<BR> show how the airbag assembly, in part or in whole became projectiles. Some<BR> units were propelled through the roofs of the vehicles.<BR>In one incident, inflator fragments tore a gapping<BR> 3-5 inch whole through the metal roof of one vehicle during an actual<BR> vehicle fire. At one incident, an arson squad was called in to<BR> investigate, the IC thought that a hole in the roof might have been caused<BR> by an bomb."<P>
 
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