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No, this is not another spot to post photos of naked women that you've taken with your new camera.<p><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Is anyone looking at a new digital SLR, particularly the new Canon which also shoots HD video? It just hit the market this week.<p>Canon EOS 500D (Digital Rebel T1i )<p>Am curious what folks think about it and its competition.<p><A HREF="http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos500d" TARGET="_blank">http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos500d</A>/<p>
 

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Re: New Camera - Digital SLR (adp)

<A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zeroforum?id=98" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zeroforum?id=98</A><p>George Dill
 

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There's a PHOTOGRAPHY forum?<p>Who knew?<p>(seriously, it never occurred to me to search for such a forum)
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>adp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, this is not another spot to post photos of naked women that you've taken with your new camera.<p><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Is anyone looking at a new digital SLR, particularly the new Canon which also shoots HD video? It just hit the market this week.<p>Canon EOS 500D (Digital Rebel T1i )<p>Am curious what folks think about it and its competition.<p><A HREF="http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos500d" TARGET="_blank">http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos500d</A>/<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'm going to probably get an Olympus E-3 when I finally go digital. It can use all of my old OM System lenses. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> I'm still a film *****. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>V70 Brad</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I'm going to probably get an Olympus E-3 when I finally go digital. It can use all of my old OM System lenses. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> I'm still a film *****. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Wow, a guy who still uses film. It's like you actually live in COLONIAL Williamsburg.<p><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><p>I can see sticking with the same manufacturer of your lenses. That's a good approach. I don't have many lenses, and no "good" ones, so that's not an issue for me.<p>I need to buy a new video camera, and I'm reasonably happy with my existing cameras. But this Canon allows me a major upgrade on the still camera front AND it has high-quality video capability.<p>So, I may pull the trigger on it.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>gdill2</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zeroforum?id=98" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zeroforum?id=98</A><p>George Dill</TD></TR></TABLE><p>thank you for the tip. I posted over there.<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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About two weeks ago I updated from a Nikon D70 to the D90. I did not do it because of it's ability to take HD video but it is a nice side benefit if I am ever in the field and need it. I chose the D90 because all of my lenses were compatible with it. It brought me from 6.1 megapixels to 12.3 megapixels and you can tell the difference. ( I still have my Nikon 6006 film camera and used to do my own developing.)<p>I was ready to try Canon but then there are all the lenses that would have to be purchased. If I am not mistaken, the Canon was just a tad more money. But if you already have any Canon equipment, I would stay with Canon with no reservation. I have never had any of my associates knock Canon SLR products.<p>I have not tested the HD video out yet. I have heard it looks great but you have to be on a tripod or it is easily shaken. Once you use the video feature you also have to focus manually as the auto-focus stops working. Some of the lenses have some type of vibration damper but I still hear you really are going to want to put it on a tripod. I am guessing that Canon will have the same problems.<p>Using it in video mode really eats up the storage on your card and also battery life. Hmmm, maybe I'll have to ask the wife if I can get the add on battery pack.......GPS tagger........wireless remote control.......<p>From what I hear the video is just for those unexpected moments when you want a great short HD video.<p>If you are going to shoot a lot of video, nothing can beat the normal video cameras. IMHO<p>To sum it up, I love my Nikon D90 and have not seen any problems with it. I have noticed that under normal use, my battery life has been fantastic.<p>If you are made of money. Look into the Hasselblad 39 Megapixel DSLR for $43,000 <p> <br> <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br>Lycka till <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
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Another Canon alternative would be the 5D MkII. I don't have one myself - still using my two 5D's - but not only does the 5D have a full frame sensor and deliver excellent results, but its video capabilities are very very good. The down side is it is considerably more expensive than what you are considering. But, you'll get many years of use from it if you go in that direction. - Stu
 

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The 5D Mark II is = pure hotness. I don't know if its in your price bracket, though. <p>The new T1i should be superb. If the video is anything like the new 5D then it should rock.<p>I love Canon gear and have been using it more many years. You can't go wrong with any of their cameras.<br>
 

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I agree - both Nikon and Canon produce excellent products, and they are always trying to outdo each other which is great for the consumer. <p>I purchased my first Canon SLR in 1971 for school and it got me through a lot of campus newspaper photography reliably, conisistently, and with a lot of pleasure. Today's "L" lenses are razor sharp and very solid although a bit on the pricey side. But they deliver fine images.<p><A HREF="http://www.pbase.com/sapearl/cleveland_flats" TARGET="_blank">http://www.pbase.com/sapearl/cleveland_flats</A><p>Buying a lens with IS - their Image Stabilization technology - can easily add $400 - but it really broadens the range of what you can do under low light. Nikon has a similar feature called VR - I believe that's vibration reduction. - Stu <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>850arrrsaylikepirate</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The 5D Mark II is = pure hotness. I don't know if its in your price bracket, though. <p>The new T1i should be superb. If the video is anything like the new 5D then it should rock.<p>I love Canon gear and have been using it more many years. You can't go wrong with any of their cameras.<br></TD></TR></TABLE>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>sapearl</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Today's "L" lenses are razor sharp and very solid although a bit on the pricey side. <p>Buying a lens with IS - their Image Stabilization technology - can easily add $400 - but it really broadens the range of what you can do under low light. Nikon has a similar feature called VR - I believe that's vibration reduction. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I have "L" fever and love it!! Once you go "L" you will never go back.<p>+1 on the IS, it truly works wonders.
 

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That's especially true on heavier lenses. One of my IS lenses is the 70-200 f/2.8. You can certainly take wonderful shots with the non IS version of this razor sharp lens, but in low light situations the IS can be critical between the keepers and "deletes."<p>I do a lot of wedding and social event work. Ceremonies and receptions are often held in low light venues and even at higher ISO's light is still minimal requiring tripods or fast lens. On the older IS lenses this feature can give you back at least 2-3 stops of lens speed. So if you metering gives you only 1/30 second for your shutter speed, the IS will give you at least 2-more stops, or 1/125 second.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>850arrrsaylikepirate</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I have "L" fever and love it!! Once you go "L" you will never go back.<p>+1 on the IS, it truly works wonders.</TD></TR></TABLE>
 

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am curious where you guys buy your camera equipment, if you use an online source<p>I was comparing the B&H prices to sonic camera (.com) and though the sonic prices appear lower, they are only lower because the lenses they offer are not IS lenses. B&H has only one kit priced, and that is with an 18-55 IS lens, which Sonic doesn't even sell. This fact brings both prices into line. Plus B&H has much better pricing on batteries, memory, etc.<p>I'll try my local camera shop, to see if they can come close to theB&H price, as I'd rather put a few $ in the local economy than send them back to New York.<p>because this is a new camera, I don't expect great deals. Then again, any sales are good sales, these days.
 

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Hi adp - do you have that link to Sonic? <p>I have been purchasing from B&H for years, both consumer and pro equipment. Their reputation is excellent along with the return policy if there are any problems. Adorama is also another fine source of equipment along with Amazon.com. <p>Keep in mind one thing though, if the price seems too good to be true, that's because it usually is. Some places will lowball the price, but then charge you extra for the strap, battery, etc...... you get the picture. Or try to upsell you because the item is "out of stock." If in doubt, you can always check the vendor out on <A HREF="http://www.reselleratings.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.reselleratings.com</A> .<p>You mention that Sonic's lens is not IS - is it a third party lens, or just a non IS Canon lens. I can't say anything good or bad about them - simply have no information on this company. But I would like to see the link the camera outfit they're selling. <p>That's a good idea to check locally though. I have a good local vendor and he will often price match. Even if he's just a little more, it's worth it to keep the local economy floating. - Stu<p>- Stu<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>adp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">am curious where you guys buy your camera equipment, if you use an online source<p>I was comparing the B&H prices to sonic camera (.com) and though the sonic prices appear lower, they are only lower because the lenses they offer are not IS lenses. B&H has only one kit priced, and that is with an 18-55 IS lens, which Sonic doesn't even sell. This fact brings both prices into line. Plus B&H has much better pricing on batteries, memory, etc.<p>I'll try my local camera shop, to see if they can come close to theB&H price, as I'd rather put a few $ in the local economy than send them back to New York.<p>because this is a new camera, I don't expect great deals. Then again, any sales are good sales, these days.</TD></TR></TABLE>
 

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I have bought most of my gear from B&H. Great company, great customer service!! No sales tax either.<p>I would go local if you can, but most of the time their prices are dang high. Here in the Northbay all but one camera store is left. The internet has seriously killed the small camera store.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>sapearl</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi adp - do you have that link to Sonic? <p></TD></TR></TABLE><p><A HREF="http://soniccameras.com/catalog/product_info.php?redirect&origin=http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient-menuext&ie=UTF-8&q=Canon+EOS+Rebel+T1i&products_id=3097" TARGET="_blank">http://soniccameras.com/catalo...=3097</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>sapearl</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>You mention that Sonic's lens is not IS - is it a third party lens, or just a non IS Canon lens. I</TD></TR></TABLE><p>depends - some are Canon but others are not specified
 

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Apparently Sonic Cameras also goes by the name/has gone by the name of Bingo Cameras according to Reseller Ratings.com. which shows a satisfaction rating of 0.54/10 for the past six months:<p><A HREF="http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Sonic_Cameras" TARGET="_blank">http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Sonic_Cameras</A><p>According to online comments and reviews sales practices involve "bait and switch, lengthy back orders.... the negative comments are actually pretty hideous, and you have to read them to believe them. Even if they are exagerated by 50% you are left with some pretty bad sales practices. But don't take my word for it - go out to resellersratings. - Stu<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>adp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><A HREF="http://soniccameras.com/catalog/product_info.php?redirect&origin=http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient-menuext&ie=UTF-8&q=Canon+EOS+Rebel+T1i&products_id=3097" TARGET="_blank">http://soniccameras.com/catalo...=3097</A><p>depends - some are Canon but others are not specified</TD></TR></TABLE>
 

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For those of you who are fairly serious about photography or even avid amateurs, here is quite an excellent resource site:<p><A HREF="http://photography-on-the.net/forum" TARGET="_blank">http://photography-on-the.net/forum</A>/<p>In the interest of full disclosure I have been a happy member and active participant since 2005. Like Swedespeed it is a worldwide forum, free of charge, full of pro's, hobbyists, amateurs, scrap bookers, artists, point and shooters, etc. who love to talk about their passions: cameras and photography. Hmmm.... sounds familiar like Volvo's and driving? <p>Anyway, it is a typical forum full of the very knowledgeable as well as beginners, egos both large and small with everything in between. <p>I had been a serious/pro film shooter from 1969 - 2005 until I decided to make the transition to digital. I was loathe to shelve my beloved Hasselblads - also made in Gottenburg - but my digital competitors were killing me. If it was not for POTN though (Photography on the Net) my transition would have been very painful as well as costly. These guys helped me out immensely, and I try to return the favor whenever possible. - Stu
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>sapearl</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Apparently Sonic Cameras also goes by the name/has gone by the name of Bingo Cameras according to Reseller Ratings.com. which shows a satisfaction rating of 0.54/10 for the past six months:<p><A HREF="http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Sonic_Cameras" TARGET="_blank">http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Sonic_Cameras</A><p>According to online comments and reviews sales practices involve "bait and switch, lengthy back orders.... the negative comments are actually pretty hideous, and you have to read them to believe them. Even if they are exagerated by 50% you are left with some pretty bad sales practices. But don't take my word for it - go out to resellersratings. - Stu<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>LOL - thanks for doing my legwork for me. I would have looked for their rating before I ordered, but I appreciate your work! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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