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Let's just say I was stretching out the legs on the R yesterday on the highway, and it suddenly died...<p>There is a fairly straight and sometimes empty highway near me and yesterday the R was just begging to be driven. So I was accelerating at a steady pace on a beautiful Sunday afternoon when I put the car in sixth gear and let off the throttle to decelerate. I tapped the brakes once while letting off the throttle and suddenly all the lights on the dash came on at the same time and I feel the steering wheel get heavy, real heavy. In my mind I'm going "oh sh*t". I signaled and moved to the right lane. The road is still straight but I am now approaching lightly scattered cars, and my mind is flying.<p>I have now decelerated to 60 and I am looking to move off the highway and exit since there's no shoulder. I go and try to give it some gas (prior to this my foot was on the clutch the entire time) and there's nothing. I look at the speedo and it's indicating 60 but the RPM gauge is not moving. In fact, it was pointing to 0. My mind goes "oh crap" again. <p>Then, I thought real quick about it (but since the sunroof was open and there was a lot of wind noise, I never noticed)... could it be that the engine is off? Well it doesn't hurt to try, so while still moving I turned the key to 0 and attempted a restart. I felt the car move when the engine was started and everything is back to normal. No more lights, no unusual behavior, just drove like a champ again...<p>So, fellas, what could possibly be the cause of this? I don't think I can take it to the dealer as I'm sure I'll get the "we can't replicate the problem" answer. And frankly, I don't have any evidence of the event occuring (nor do I want any). I turn to you for some possible answers.
 

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Re: Nerve-racking experience on the highway yesterday (HJZ)

<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> maybe some powerfailure towards the ECM (engine) or CEM (central)...couldn't be a fuelproblem coz you were slowing down (lifted the throttle). What about the rest of electrical stuff? radio also shut down? lights?<br>Be carefull with turning the key while driving....in the 0 position it's WAAAAY to easy to get the steeringlock activated when the key just pops out a few mm.
 

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Re: Nerve-racking experience on the highway yesterday (HJZ)

Has your car been in for any type of service recently? Dealer or aftermarket? Has the battery cable been removed for any reason? Does sound like an electrical failure. I would start at the battery cable.<p>I am not sure why you depressed the clutch, especially at that speed, unless you felt there was some sort of driveline failure, which I agree would then be a natural reaction. Much safer to deaccellerate in gear, and it also keeps the engine turning. I expect if you had just let out the clutch the engine would have refired. If you were on the freeway I can also understand that you may have been trying to retain forward momentum, not knowing where the car was going to leave you. <p>It is still worth taking it to a dealer, if you have a good one. There should be a failure code of some type. Try to recall all the conditions that led up to the failure.
 

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My car was in for service maybe 2 weeks, 1100 miles ago for the 7500 mile service, plus repainting of the Park Assist Sensors. I am going to check the cable when I'm out of work.<p>I depressed the clutch to keep the car moving because the first exit is about 3 miles away and I wanted to at least get to there. I pushed in the clutch as soon as the steering went heavy and all the lights came on. <p>I can picture the events and it went like this... I was accelerating full throttle in third and I stopped accelerating once I put it in 6th and began declerating in gear. The lights came on when I tapped the brakes once and steering went heavy. That's when I put in the clutch to coast to the next exit. <p>I am more reluctant to take it to the dealership because I was not exactly travelling at the speed limit when the shut off occurred.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HJZ</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was accelerating full throttle in third and I stopped accelerating once I put it in 6th and began declerating in gear. The lights came on when I tapped the brakes once and steering went heavy. That's when I put in the clutch to coast to the next exit. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sounds like you just stalled it to me. Am I reading this correctly that you went directly from 3rd to 6th? I would not think that would cause an issue, but if you did jump 2 gears maybe some sensor got confused and shut everything down.<p>Maybe I am misreading your post though. <p>I've only had my GT stall on me once once, but it was just like you described. The dashboard looked like Christmas and the steering wheel felt like I was trying to steer a bus.<p>-Ben
 

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I meant I was under full throttle from 3rd, through 4th, through 5th, and stopped at the end of 5th and shifted to 6th.
 

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Re: Nerve-racking experience on the highway yesterday (HJZ)

I am glad there is a happy ending to your story.<p>I once accidentally turned off my car by hitting the key with my knee and when I cycled it back on (while in motion), the car immediately went into LIMP MODE. I pulled over, and turned her completely off and then back on and all was well.
 

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I don't think I would have let out on the clutch to fire it. Depending on how fast you are going and how much bite your tires have...this could possibly throw you sideways for a complete loss of control.<br>I would wait until you got down to 30mph or so, and then try.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bcantana</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sounds like you just stalled it to me. Am I reading this correctly that you went directly from 3rd to 6th? I would not think that would cause an issue, but if you did jump 2 gears maybe some sensor got confused and shut everything down.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>If that's the case the engine should/could never stall. I/we can idle the engine in 6th, leave the throttle at rest and the car crawls forward! must be something electrical in his case.
 

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Thanks for the responses guys. <p>My guess goes with electrical as well. At first I thought maybe I let off too fast and there wasn't enough fuel going to the engine, but then I thought the Volvo engineers are smarter than that to let that happen. <p>Now I do recall some "funny" things happening back in the winter season. A couple of months ago, 2 separate occasions when I first went to start up the car, there would be a flash of "immobilizer" message on dash. I never paid too much attention to it because it lasted not even a half a second. <p>Hm... maybe I should get the ecu checked out.<br>
 

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Why the HELL would you depress the clutch at those speeds? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Hey JRL... I think he was pressing the clutch in at those speeds to get to the next gear. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> That's what happens with a manual transmission. But maybe I am wrong, I own a GT. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MASH</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Hey JRL... I think he was pressing the clutch in at those speeds to get to the next gear. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> That's what happens with a manual transmission. But maybe I am wrong, I own a GT. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Why don't you read the post before you make a dumb, sarcastic comment? I mean really!<br>I believe he SAID he <B>HELD THE CLUTCH IN</B><p>Quote:<br>... I go and try to give it some gas (prior to this <B>my foot was on the clutch the </B><B>entire time)...</B>
 

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Don't make this so easy! You are as predictable as my nephew! (But that is what I love about him, and you) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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JRL - I had depressed the clutch to maintain momentum because the next exit (since there wasn't a shoulder to pull over to) was fairly far down the road. At that time I had slowed down dramatically, so "at those speeds" was probably around 65-70 and I just wanted to be able to get to the exit.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HJZ</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">JRL - I had depressed the clutch to maintain momentum because the next exit (since there wasn't a shoulder to pull over to) was fairly far down the road. At that time I had slowed down dramatically, so "at those speeds" was probably around 65-70 and I just wanted to be able to get to the exit. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Doesn't matter, that was not the best idea for many reasons
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HJZ</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am more reluctant to take it to the dealership because I was not exactly travelling at the speed limit when the shut off occurred.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I wouldn't worry about that. Driving above the speed limit does not void a warranty. If a car can't handle sppeds above 80mph, then Volvo has bigger problems then to ask why you were speeding......
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>drivinfast</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I wouldn't worry about that. Driving above the speed limit does not void a warranty. If a car can't handle sppeds above 80mph, then Volvo has bigger problems then to ask why you were speeding......</TD></TR></TABLE><p>A friend of mine drove his parents 1986 325 while he was in college. One time he went with his mother to bring the car in for service, and he was telling the service writer about a problem he had noticed while on speed at the highway. The guy asked what speed the problem occurred at. With his mother standing right there, he told the guy "eh....between 110 and 120". <p>I think his mother waited until they got in the car to smack him. <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HJZ</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">JRL - I had depressed the clutch to maintain momentum because the next exit (since there wasn't a shoulder to pull over to) was fairly far down the road. At that time I had slowed down dramatically, so "at those speeds" was probably around 65-70 and I just wanted to be able to get to the exit. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I know what you mean, try pulling to the shoulder when you car dies in the middle of a 5 lane highway with a 4 speed. You won't make it 1000 yards with the clutch out.
 

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I'm bumping this thread up as a FYI.<p>This engine cut out and dying thing happened to me again today. Ever since the first time, I've been nervous about going all out full throttle in anything higher than 3rd gear. Well, today I decided to try it again while merging on to the highway. Good thing this time I was prepared... somewhat. <p>While accelerating at full throttle going to the top of 4th gear, I lifted throttle once I shifted to fifth. I had this weird feeling of deja vu when I did this and what do you know, the car kind of stuttered for a quick sec and went dead... again. All the lights went on and the steering wheel has gone heavy. This time I left the clutch engaged and the car is just slowing down. <p>Just like last time I pulled over to the right lane and attempted a restart while still travelling at a "fast pace". Again, the car started right back up and was like nothing had happened.<p>The first time it happened I just thought it was an anomaly. Now it has happened twice I am definitely going to check with the dealer. This is not something I'd expect from a high end car.<p>I also was reluctant to take it to the dealer because of the speed I was travelling. But after this lastest incidence, the car exhibited the same behavior in lower gears now. I tried accelerating full throttle a couple of times in second and third, I would see a very quick blink of the check engine light and everything would be normal again. <p>I really don't know what could be the cause of it... hmm...
 
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