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Greetings everyone,<p>I'm looking to purchase my first Volvo. I wanted experienced input from the forum.<p>I want to find a turbo AWD wagon with a third seat. <p>I've heard that if a wagon does not have one, they can be added through a dealer. Is this true? Anyone have estimates on cost?<p>I can't decide between a V70 XC or the R. Can a turbo XC be chipped adequately? Can the R be chipped for more boost? How much should mileage be considered? At what stage do most Volvo's begin to have issues? I've been a VW owner my whole life, have always heard positive things about Volvos, but don't know what is realistic for life span. As always I'm certain it's a function of care.<p><br>I appreciate everyone's time.<p>Mark
 

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Re: Need input with buying/deciding/finding (HeyLaxCoach)

Welcome to swedespeed!<p>I would imagine the third seat can be added but would be pretty pricey at a dealer (around $1,000) and is really only suited for very small children. Could also check a recycler for a seat.<p>Both the low pressure (XC) and high pressure (R) motors can be chipped for better performance. The viscous coupling AWD system (like most) is very sensitive to equal tire circumferences for all four wheels. I would focus any pre-purchase inspection on the AWD system, automatic transmission, and air conditioning. Look for maintenance records and repair receipts. A poorly maintained car could have an accumulation of deferred items that will need to be budgeted for, IMHO. Good luck.
 

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Re: Need input with buying/deciding/finding (HeyLaxCoach)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HeyLaxCoach</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Greetings everyone,<p>I'm looking to purchase my first Volvo. I wanted experienced input from the forum.<p>I want to find a turbo AWD wagon with a third seat. <p>I've heard that if a wagon does not have one, they can be added through a dealer. Is this true? Anyone have estimates on cost?<p>I can't decide between a V70 XC or the R. Can a turbo XC be chipped adequately? Can the R be chipped for more boost? How much should mileage be considered? At what stage do most Volvo's begin to have issues? I've been a VW owner my whole life, have always heard positive things about Volvos, but don't know what is realistic for life span. As always I'm certain it's a function of care.<p><br>I appreciate everyone's time.<p>Mark</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Mark,<p>I'm also a former VW guy. It's my understanding that Volvo no longer offers 3rd row seats for the early V70 cars, and I'm not sure if you can still get them for the 2nd gen. cars or not. Unless your kids are really young (probably <8), a 3rd row isn't going to serve you very well. There's really no foot room at all, and it's not going to fit kids much over 48" tall. When I looked at buying a Volvo wagon, I wanted 3rd row. That change as soon as I actually looked at a 3rd row seat. I have a '98 V70 XC and I'm pretty happy w/ it (although I'm getting tired of the maint. issues).<p>As far as kicking up the boost, mine is a 2.4 LPT (low pressure turbo), so I haven't really looked into it. I didn't buy the car for it's sportiness. If you want to go that way, you're probably better off w/ an R or a T5.<p>As far as when they start having issues, if you read these forums, it's pretty much from the day you drive them off the showroom floor. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> Certainly you're going to start having issues w/ a car that has North of 100k miles on it. I've been reasonably lucky w/ mine so far, but I'm starting to put some money into it. I've done front and rear brakes (pads and rotors), but I view those as normal wear and tear items, and expect to replace them on a somewhat regular basis. I just did front struts and lower control arms, and expect to get 50k out of what I put in, if not more. It looks like I may be in for a rear drive shaft though <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Good luck and welcome to the madness. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>BTW My son plays lax, 5th grade.
 

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Hi there. You can definately add the third seat and I'll bet you can find them from Erie Vovo for a decent price but yes from the dealer it's probably quite expensive.<p>Chipping the car makes it a ton more fun. The aftermarket on our cars is starting to get a little more in depth. You can find out a ton searching around on this forum and Volvospeed.<p>Here's a quick list of some upgrade places:<br>IPD ipdusa.com<br>EST Eurosporttuning.ca<br>Viva Performance vivaperformance.com<br>QBM quickbrickmotorsports.com
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Big Will</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi there. You can definately add the third seat and I'll bet you can find them from Erie Vovo for a decent price but yes from the dealer it's probably quite expensive.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Erie is out of 3rd seats and so for all intents there are no more for the early cars.<br>(Sure one will come available every so often but don't buy a pre-2000 and think you'll get one right away)<br>You can still buy them for the 01's and newer, about $1300 or so installed.<br>As was said unless your kids are under 4 feet, forgetaboutit
 

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I don't know much about the third row seats (I drive a sedan) But as for your your other questions, I can attest that the Volvo is a much better car than the VW. (I am a previous owner). Yes the Volvo has some high-cost, occasional maintenance costs, but I can easily overlook them when I weigh them against the comfort/safety factor. Yes I have had the occasional headache with my S70, but nowhere near the headaches I had with my Jetta GLI, or even my BMW 735I.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Evil E</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't know much about the third row seats (I drive a sedan) But as for your your other questions, I can attest that the Volvo is a much better car than the VW. (I am a previous owner). Yes the Volvo has some high-cost, occasional maintenance costs, but I can easily overlook them when I weigh them against the comfort/safety factor. Yes I have had the occasional headache with my S70, but nowhere near the headaches I had with my Jetta GLI, or even my BMW 735I.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Which body style GLI did you have? I really don't agree that the Volvo is that much better a car than the VW. Back in '98, my ex and I looked at buying a new wagon. We looked at the new B5 Passat and the V70. At the time, the V70 was ~50% more than the Passat. Almost spent the extra $$ on the V70, but in the end, the perceived benefits (safety, comfort, longevity, etc.) didn't justify almost $10k more. We ended up w/ the Passat. She's still got the car, and it's been good to her. I've had my '98 XC for about a year, and it's got about the same miles as the Passat. I honestly think the Passat is the better car. In fact, if I hadn't just sunk a bunch of money into my XC, I'd sell it and buy the V6 4-motion Passat a friend of mine is selling.
 
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