Need another car soon...

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T5Killa

Discussion Starter · Mar 22, 2009

Ok I've got an 01 T5 with that notorious transmission as everyone is aware. Well i think i faired better than most people with these cars, seeing that i've got 120k on the original tranny and still going. HOWEVER either the valve bodies or solenoids are going bad that control several shift points so i want to trade in the car while the tranny still runs. My question is one, what year did Volvo dump the stop-neutral feature? Number two, what is the average consensus on what mileage to do the first transmission fluid flush? Thanks to all for your help.

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kentis19

· #2 · Mar 22, 2009

Re: Need another car soon... (T5Killa)

1) 2001 was the only year with stop neutral i think...
2) no idea

shagginwagon

· #3 · Mar 22, 2009

first trans flush around 30K miles.

richwb

· #4 · Mar 22, 2009

After 2004 you should be OK. For the cost of a newer car you might just look into getting your current one fixed, or not depending on cost and parts availability.

Bender

· #5 · Mar 22, 2009

No need to go as new as 04 - anything 02 and newer is fine.

As Shaggin said 30k for fluid changes on the transmissions

Fisher

· #6 · Mar 22, 2009

Re: Need another car soon... (T5Killa)

I like to do a drain-and-fill every 15k, although 20k is probably fine too. If you do periodic drain-and-fills, there is no need for a flush.

JRL

· #7 · Mar 22, 2009

Re: Need another car soon... (T5Killa)

Quote, originally posted by T5Killa »

Ok I've got an 01 T5 with that notorious transmission as everyone is aware. Well i think i faired better than most people with these cars, seeing that i've got 120k on the original tranny and still going. HOWEVER either the valve bodies or solenoids are going bad that control several shift points so i want to trade in the car while the tranny still runs. My question is one, what year did Volvo dump the stop-neutral feature?

2002 01 was the 1st and only...

Number two, what is the average consensus on what mileage to do the first transmission fluid flush? Thanks to all for your help.

30-40 K (tops) then drain and fills every other oil change thereafter

JRL

· #8 · Mar 22, 2009

Re: (Bender)

Quote, originally posted by Bender »

No need to go as new as 04 - anything 02 and newer is fine.

NOT TRUE. THE 02 TRANNIES ARE THE SAME AS 01 MINUS THE STOP NEUTRAL.
2003 HAVE THE BETTER/NEWER VALVE BODIES

AS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED HERE AD NAUSEUM, YOU NEEDED TO HAVE FLUSHED AS EARLY AS 30K THEN DRAIN AND FILLS EVERY 15-20K, OR AT 100K YOU WILL BE NEEDING A NEW TRANSMISSION

Young Burnsy

· #9 · Mar 22, 2009

Are the T5 and 2.4t transmissions the same? I've gotten past 102k with out any real problem. I don't know if the transmission has been replaced but I don't think it has.

JRL

· #10 · Mar 22, 2009

Re: (Young Burnsy)

The same

Young Burnsy

· #11 · Mar 22, 2009

Re: (JRL)

It doesn't look like my ATF has ever been changed and when I was at BVV in January for the meet the tech said it was probably better not to flush it. Is there any harm in doing a drain and fill? Is it worth it? I am kind of worried about my transmission because of all of negative reports on it and I'm unsure of what to do. I've also thought about doing a manual swap when this dies, if it does but hopefully it won't.

T5Killa

Discussion Starter · #12 · Mar 22, 2009

That is what i thought regarding the first flush. See my issue is that if i buy one used which is more practical for me right now seeing that im moving to NY in year there is no point in me financing a brand new car when i wont need it over there and i certainly don't wanna move to NY with debt! Plus most used in my price range have well over 30k some even closer to 100k and who knows if those owners were as smart as some of you guys and took care of their trannies. So you see i could be right back in the same situation if i buy a used one that didn't have any prior tranny fluid service.

Young Burnsy

· #13 · Mar 23, 2009

Re: (T5Killa)

So you never have touched the tranny?

In January when I went to the BVV meet I had the TCM updated and I also replaced my upper engine mount which seemed to make a big difference. Now my transmission only hesitates sometimes in between 1-2 and 2-3 when cold, which I believe to be normal.

Have you removed the neutral-stop feature? If not that would be the next thing I would do. If you are fixed on buying another used S60 get an 02+ and just check what kind of condition the fluid is on the car. What is your price range? It still might make more sense to have the transmission replaced if it indeed goes bad. Are there any other reasons why you want to trade your car?

T5Killa

Discussion Starter · #14 · Mar 23, 2009

Re: (Young Burnsy)

Quote, originally posted by Young Burnsy »

So you never have touched the tranny?

In January when I went to the BVV meet I had the TCM updated and I also replaced my upper engine mount which seemed to make a big difference. Now my transmission only hesitates sometimes in between 1-2 and 2-3 when cold, which I believe to be normal.

Have you removed the neutral-stop feature? If not that would be the next thing I would do. If you are fixed on buying another used S60 get an 02+ and just check what kind of condition the fluid is on the car. What is your price range? It still might make more sense to have the transmission replaced if it indeed goes bad. Are there any other reasons why you want to trade your car?

I have the latest TCM software as confirmed by VADIS. I have replaced the upper engine mount a while back. Stop neutral was removed way back at 40k. Fluid was drained and filled. I'm not absolutely fixed on another S60 just wondering what other years besides 01 to stay away from. i don't want any debt by the time i move to NY which is one reason i want to get rid of my S60 for a lease. i currently owe 6800 while the car is only worth 6000 im already in a negative equity situation since i refinanced my car about a year ago. So whatever dealer buys it from me i will actually owe them about 800. So figure 5000 for a rebuilt tranny, car is worth 6000. Doesn't seem to be a worthwhile investment as more problems will mount as the car ages further. That's the second reason i want to get rid of it is before the tranny dies then i'll be in even more negative equity as the value of the car will drop dramatically without a functioning transmission. I put almost 100k on it as i got it with 36k. So i feel i got my money's worth out of it. I think it's time for me to part ways with my S60.

It's been good to me and never left me stranded.

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Young Burnsy

· #15 · Mar 23, 2009

Re: (T5Killa)

I see where you're coming from and agree. But WHOA where'd you get 5k for a transmission replacement?

Turbos60

· #16 · Mar 23, 2009

Re: (Young Burnsy)

That really sucks. When i was first having problems, i flushed the fluid and replaced the transmission mount and its been fine since.

njb8199

· #17 · Mar 23, 2009

Re: (Young Burnsy)

Quote, originally posted by Young Burnsy »

But WHOA where'd you get 5k for a transmission replacement?

Stealership prices.

Don Beyer Falls Church charged me almost $8k to do the transmission on my 2002.5 S80 T6. It failed when the car was 3.5 years old but had almost 80k miles.

kentis19

· #18 · Mar 23, 2009

Re: (JRL)

Quote, originally posted by JRL »

"No need to go as new as 04 - anything 02 and newer is fine."
NOT TRUE. THE 02 TRANNIES ARE THE SAME AS 01 MINUS THE STOP NEUTRAL.
2003 HAVE THE BETTER/NEWER VALVE BODIES

obviously all this stop neutral stuff isnt the same for MT but did they also change/improve the manual transmissions from 02 to 03??

VTT5

· #19 · Mar 23, 2009

Re: (kentis19)

No, only MT change was from 5 speed to 6 speed in the T5's in MY05.

T5Killa

Discussion Starter · #20 · Mar 24, 2009

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Re: (Turbos60)

Quote, originally posted by Turbos60 »

That really sucks. When i was first having problems, i flushed the fluid and replaced the transmission mount and its been fine since.

Yeah when i noticed the problem i didn't do a complete flush but rather gradually introduced new fluid into the transmission (drain and fill) which was about the amount that the fluid pan holds. And it seemed to help at first but now it's right back where it was

and now i'm not wanting to sell it cuz i just installed that IPD HDTCV and was amazed how smooth the boost is delivered. It's almost like a new car all over again. You know one would think that Volvo would manufacture their own transmissions. since the rest of the engine is rock solid the weak spot seems to be the tranny. Oh well wishful thinking i guess. Im wondering if i go easy on it if i can make it last til next summer. What do you guys think?

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