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Dear All,<p>I became member of these forums right after ordering my Volvo C70 MY08, back in August/September 2007...in fact, I decided for it when visiting the 2007 Geneva Auto Show, but I had to endure a few months before the machine arrived at home (via diplomatic sales).<p>So for those currently interested in buying a C70 or even Volvos in general, I felt like sharing my feedback with you, one and a half years later...a bit too late? Maybe. But it's also great to provide an owner's opinion without that exhilarating and absolutely biased (yet wonderful) emotion that comes with every new car you buy... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>So here are some of my thoughts:<p>1 - Design - I must be honest here; when my C70 arrived, I was ABSOLUTELY blown away by its beauty, especially considering Volvo's tradition with boxy-yet-safe family-oriented cars. And to this date, in my opinion, the C70 is still the most beautiful 4-seater convertible in the mid-to-luxury market segment in the world. Sleek yet sober lines, NOTHING of the boxy looks of old Volvos, sexy both in its sedan and convertible forms, and VERY imposing in terms of length and width of the chassis. Trust me, this thing is a beauty and turns jealous eyes...without looking like a pink Paris Hilton. And yeah, the rims/wheels are another thing of beauty.<p>2 - Performance - My model is a 2.5 TD C70 Summum with a tiptronic-like Auto shift...more than enough for any urban use, and more than enough for the road in humane speeds...I say this because I mainly use it in Switzerland or France (120km/h and 130km/h limits respectively)...despite being close enough to Germany, I've never tested it on the no-limit autobahns...bummer, right? Yes...but I got up to 140km/h without any effort or instability, so the engine in all senses is no disappointment, unless you want extremely fast takeoffs on every occasion (it's a relatively heavy car after all).<p>As for consumption, my urban-road mix gives an average of something like 7.5l per 100km...not bad, considering the size of the engine and the weight of the car.<p>3 - Roof quality and noise levels - This is always a concern with convertibles. However, when doing my research and reading various reviews, I discovered that Volvo has really overdone it with a sturdy hardtop that is much better than the one in the Eos, or any other softtop out there...surely Mercedes, Lexus and BMW have their own examples (am not counting lower-market offers from Peugeot or Renault)...but the SLK is a 2-seater and the Lexus is way too expensive...as for BMWs, they look like BMWs, which doesn't necessarily mean a good thing here in Europe (too popular, and sometimes regarded as a car to "show off").<p>But what about noise? Nothing that disturbs me, even if the movable parts may sometimes "show" themselves when you hit potholes and bumps...I am kind of a perfectionist with my car, and always want to know every cause of noise, however minor...even then, the Volvo has not disappointed me in this regard. And with the high-performance sound system (not the highest from Dynaudio), sound and music are great to hear inside the C70...rainfall is not a factor either.<p>So you may ask: what about the diesel engine? Yes, it's a bit noisier than the gas one, as expected...but it has never really bothered me, especially when the engine is warm...and considering the prevalence of diesel engines in Europe, nobody cares about it or notices any difference...not to mention that it consumes less, of course!<p>4 - Comfort and features - Another area where I have practically NOTHING to complain about...wonderful leather seats, excellent finishing, seat heating, A/C, great sound system, iPod/USB connection kit, an excellent built-in GPS system (so far I haven't seen a better layout for road orientation), windblocker, a billion compartments for storing stuff, good trunk space with or without roof, unsurpassed Volvo security and airbags, Xenon lights, easy console access, enough space for passengers in the back, useful information in the panel...the guys really did it right this time.<p>5 - Service - No problems with Volvo at all; what did I have to do so far in terms of maintenance? Change my winter tires for summer ones, wash the car from time to time, remove a small dent caused by someone else (no vestiges of it after the repair), put some silicon on the rubber conduits surrounding windows, and take it to service for a miscalibrated software for the roof (only once).<p>5 - Any NEGATIVES? Yes, a minor few: <p>a - The Volvo iPod kit is great simply because it shows music titles and playlists...but it does not seem to accept commands from the keypad...for big playlists like mine (5000+ songs), it would be great to have a quick way to jump letters instead of scrolling through the whole enchilada...if you guys know of something, please let me know!<p>b - The rubber railings/conduits surrounding the top of front windows...when it rains, there is a specific spot where rain drops fall into the driver...I've checked this with Volvo, but it seems like a design decision due to the hardtop parts. Difficult to solve and minor to worry about...but a bit irritating sometimes. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>c - This is not really a concern, but something that should be noted for dwellers of European cities or other cramped places...the C70 turn ratio is relatively wide, meaning that when maneuvering out of parking places or entering narrow ways, you have to be careful not to miscalculate your way in terms of the circumference of the turn.<p>This is my honest feedback to you after this relatively long period of time with my loved machine...I am really satisfied with it, and can't help but drool every time I compare its design with that of other cars...all in all, I would say a 8.5 or 9 out of 10! I hope this is useful to any prospective buyers..!<p>Congrats, Volvo, for a great car! <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by brlawyer at 2:50 PM 5-8-2009</i>
 

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Re: My C70 MY08, one and a half years later...what is the VERDICT? ;) (brlawyer)

Great post, brlawyer!<p>My own experience is pretty similar. In my case the car is a MY07 car, purchased in January 2007.<p>Styling - I agree that it is still the nicest-looking convertible of comparable price - the lines all hang together. Some may feel that the interior is a little too stark, but I am a fan of the simple, but elegant lines. Personally, I generally like wood trim more than the aluminum look, but the waterfall center console stack is very cool. (If they had had a walnut trim option back then, however, I might have gone for it.) My own car is black with calcite cream. Other than the problems of keeping a black car clean, it is an awesome combo.<p>Comfort - The seats are great. I have the regular leather, since the upgraded leather wasn't available in 2007. It has held up very well so far, and still looks as new. I am 6'4", and have plenty of room, although I have the front seat all the way back. That said, I can actually move the seat forward enough so that I can squeeze into the back seat behind the driver position, and still be able to drive the car without changing the driver seat position. In this "sit behind myself" test, the C70 comes out better than the VW Eos, and slightly better than either the Audo A4 Cab. or BMW 3-series convertible. Still, it is a tight back seat for all but emergency use by adults....<p>Performance - I also view the car as being very much adequately quick - I have the T5 engine. That said, it would be nice if 0-60 tested a bit better, for bragging rights. I think they made the final gearing a bit too tall, probably in the interests of fuel efficiency. But lower gearing would have helped. A 6-speed auto would also have been nice. Given the broad torque profile of the T5 engine, a 5-speed auto is probably sufficient. But again a 6-speed would have been cooler (or something like the VW Eos' DSG tranny (is that the acronym?))<p>Fuel efficiency - very good on the highway, but only OK in town, given the weight of the car. I routinely get over 30 mpg on the freeway.<p>Braking - some have commented on the pedal feel not being as firm as they'd like. But the actual braking performance and stopping distances are really quite good.<p>Handling - Very decent, especially for a FWD car, helped in part by the very balanced weight distribution, and the use of high-quality tires, whether the all-seasons that come with the std. wheels, or (in my case) the Pirelli P-Zero Rosso summer tires that came with the 18" wheels. They should stick pretty good - they also are used on Ferraris. It's not a sports car, but it IS a fun car to drive.<p>Sound system - the Dynaudio system is awesome! In mine, I only have an aux. jack for my iPod, so no integrated control. But the sound quality is tremendous. Most of the time I am listening to Sirius, anyway.<p>Hard-top issues - no leaks from mine, and no problems/issues of any kind. The gutterless roof design and the slope of the side windows means that you can get rained on if the window is cracked, and you can also get dripped on when you open the door with a wet roof. But at least in my case no leaks or drips when things are closed. There are the little creaks when going over bumps, but all-in-all I am not bothered by the minor little noises. I HAVE found that if I ever hear anything like a rattle from the roof mechanism, it is sometimes due to having put the roof up while the car was on a slant. Lowering the roof, and then re-raising it, seems to solve this occasional issue.<p>My car is still very low miles - just now getting to 8,000 miles. The only things done in that time have been two oil changes, plus a couple/few recall items that came out in late 2007, if I remember right.<p>My wife and I still love the car, and also like the fact that there are not really that many of them out there, so we don't see ourselves coming and going too often, and also still are excited to pass another one on the road. We also enjoy having other Volvo drivers check out the car....
 

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Re: My C70 MY08, one and a half years later...what is the VERDICT? ;) (brlawyer)

Great summaries, and I concur.<p>My only complaint is the fuel economy. The car is just so darned heavy! Now if only they could lighten the car 500lbs, it would be a fantastic car!<p>I agree with the roof design. Good quiet and sturdy, but it will drip on you or the seat if you open the door when it is raining hard.<p>My only complaint is the door design has the hard plastic handle right where I rest my elbow. Tough to get used to, when I don't drive the car often. <p>My wife still loves the car and says it is the best car she has ever owned (so far).
 

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Re: My C70 MY08, one and a half years later...what is the VERDICT? ;) (brlawyer)

I'm 2 years in now <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> and it's been an absolutely wonderful companion my C70.<p>I own a D5 diesel 5-cylinder with the automatic geartronic 5-speed transmition since april 2007. When I ordered the car I had to wait 11 months until it would be on my driveway. (Due to first deliveries & productions were all T5 engines) She now has +-70.000km's on her.<p>I ordered it blind, solely with the website and catalogues at the dealer, and I had only driven one when mine was already ordered for 6 months, so it was purely on design and functions that I decided to get the volvo. Initially my budget was +-35.000 euro, but in that category I just couldn't find anything that was quite up in terms of build quality, engines and audio performance etc. (Eos, Opel, basic stock car A4,...) I stretched it quite far to +-43500 euro at the end, with a 9% discount included <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> . <p>So mine is silver metallic with brown leather and umbra design color for the rest of the interior and off course the aluminium center console and door parts. I've got the SUMMUM option pack on mine, with on top of that 18" Mirzam wheels, Dynaudio + extra subs in the back and a sports steering wheel + the shift knob also with aluminium inserts. Recently I added the optional rear spoiler too.<p>First impressions were great, lovely color combo, and it drives great. Engine has nice torque and feels powerful enough for normal road use. The sound system blew my mind away, this is defenitely one of the things I love most!! <br>I had a few small glitches, but overall quality is superb and service was also impeccable at my dealership! I've had some serious problems with a beep sound that you can read in other posts, but It's gone for now, will see this summer when I drive into France again if the bugger is still there <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> .<p>I recently upgraded my engine management with the BSR PPC and it changed the entire car <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> Best investment I ever made! I went up from 163hp to 220hp.<p>Positive:<br>1. Design and exclusivity ( you don't see that many out here )<br>2. Dynaudio with the extra subwoofers ( Should be nr.1 on everybody's list!!!! )<br>3. Roof and the mechanics ( had no big rattles and all works like a charm )<br>4. Build quality ( exterior and interior ) and paint quality is superb ( OCD freak )<br>5. D5 engine with geartronic ( nice match for the powerfull cruizer ability's )<br>6. BSR engine tune = absolute worth the money and makes the car better<br>7. Mirzam wheels make the car a stunner <br>8. Seats are very comfortable and look sporty ( 1250km's are no hassle )<p>Negative thougths:<br> - no possibility to integrate Iphone/ipod in my 2007 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0"> <br> - torque steering when accelerating hard<br> - fast drying out roofrubbers at the windows( I have the stuff to work them with so it doesn't squeeek )<br> - heated seats not powerful enough<br> - aftermarket parts for our type of car are rare and limited <br> - The mad price drops volvo currently advertises on our car!!!! <p>I just love my car and it's the first one I don't get tired with! I would by the same one again but maybe I would spec a white one <br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I probably forgot a bunch of stuff, so I will edit when I realize more...<p>So to end it, HAPPY OWNER HERE <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Anybody still deciding, just pull the plug and go for it, you won't regret it!! <p> <IMG SRC="http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs028.snc1/3163_1135425782097_1120890191_30403221_6802759_n.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p><br><i>Modified by koen_dr at 11:52 AM 5-11-2009</i><p><br><i>Modified by koen_dr at 11:55 AM 5-11-2009</i><p><br><i>Modified by koen_dr at 12:45 PM 5-11-2009</i><BR><BR>
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Re: My C70 MY08, one and a half years later...what is the VERDICT? ;) (brlawyer)

Got to say that I agree with almost everything posted here. Got my 09 in August 08 and have put about 9,000 enjoyable miles on it. It is my everyday car, winter and summer. Love the style, roof and simplicity of the interior the most. My issues? I never really liked the stock rims so I replaced them with a more aggressive looking 5 spoke design. Also, what is with the monochrome LCD display in the center stack? The rest of the car is so up to date and the LCD and graphics look 10 years behind the times. Color screen with better graphics would be nice. Love the car!
 

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Re: My C70 MY08, one and a half years later...what is the VERDICT? ;) (brlawyer)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>brlawyer</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So you may ask: what about the diesel engine? Yes, it's a bit noisier than the gas one, as expected...but it has never really bothered me, especially when the engine is warm...and considering the prevalence of diesel engines in Europe, <B>nobody cares about it or notices any difference...</B>not to mention that it consumes less, of course!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Still not clear to me how you could possibly take the diesel engine in such a beautifull convertible...<p>The beautifull 5 cylinder petrol sound is really amazing, I couldn't live without it in my C70. In a convertible it's even more important.<p>I had a replacement car for one and a half weeks (for minor accident repair) and almost become crazy abouth the 2.0D engine of the C30.<p>It really didn't put a smile on my face unlike the 5 cyl. petrol.<br>And I also thought diesel is more expensive then petrol in Switzerland, no?<p>But good review though! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>
 

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Re: My C70 MY08, one and a half years later...what is the VERDICT? ;) (BenES)

I can tell you it was almost a non-issue for me, for the following reasons:<p>1 - Volvo did a great job with the 2.5TD in the C70; the design of the valves/cams makes for a much less noisy diesel engine than before; and when it's warm, it's almost the same as gas;<p>2 - despite slightly higher prices in CH, diesel is still much more economic than gas; we save between 20% and 30% in terms of autonomy with a single refuel;<p>3 - diesel is by nature a much more efficient fuel than gas; and there is no comparison with the torque provided by normal gas engines...it's great to drive it up Swiss mountains with less than 2000 revvs. I thought of going for the gas turbo version, but with gas prices as high as they were, the mileage would be horrible compared with the diesel...all in all, I don't regret it at all <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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