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So I've decided to bite the bullet and bring the R over to NY where I go to med school. However, having grown up in So Cal all my life I'm a little clueless on how having a car during East Coast winters works. First, I know I'll need snow tires during the winter. I'm not that stupid. However, is it really necessary to wash out the salt from the underside of the car everytime you drive it outside? I'll be in the Bronx and it seems to me that they salt the roads pretty heavily. I always see people going to the car wash after the roads start becoming slushy and muddy. Should I just get the underside coated? Second, if I plan on not driving the car for perhaps a few weeks, I assume I need to make sure the gas tank is full to prevent condensation? I also heard I should always keep the tank at least half way full if I'm driving around for the same reason? Any other winter driving tips would be appreciated!
 

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Re: Moving the R to NY - Winter questions. (PhilUp)

I live on Eastern Long Island, and go into the city quite often....The roads here are absolutley terrible.... potholes the size of craters...if you have 18" pegs, you WILL be blowing tires and denting rims left and right, 17's you'll still have to swerve around 'em. Winters aren't too bad, but when we do get a storm it usually comes in the form of several feet. And if you have a MT, your clutch is going to hate NYC traffic.
 

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Re: Moving the R to NY - Winter questions. (PhilUp)

Yeah,<br>I would worry more about the raods then the salt.<br>Yes, you should have the underside washed as often as possible.<br>Do you have to do it EVERY time it snows, probably not, but at least once a month or 4 to 6 times during the winter.<br>They don't use all <B>that much</B> salt in the city
 

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Re: Moving the R to NY - Winter questions. (PhilUp)

The worst salting in the world takes place in and around Bayonne NJ.<p>Second to that is the Bronx. I feel for your undercarriage and in the winter<br>I would either wash it myself or find a good non damage car wash. <p>I hope you are in the good Bronx and not the bad Bronx (Throgs Neck<br>and the warzone area, or death town)<p>Get 17 wheels for certain for the Bronx
 

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Re: Moving the R to NY - Winter questions. (Helmut Ranff)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Helmut Ranff</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get 17 wheels for certain for the Bronx</TD></TR></TABLE><p>And a road-hazard warranty for your tires. I ended up selling my 18s, and I'm glad I got rid of them every single time I hit one of the enormous and often unavoidable potholes here. In other words, about 20 times every day.<p>Sure looked nice, though. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Moving the R to NY - Winter questions. (Helmut Ranff)

I'm in a pretty good area of the Bronx (by Jacobi Medical center). I suprisingly see pretty nice cars driving around and parked on the streets so I figured the R wouldn't stand out too much. Plus I'm going to be parking in a secure parking garage. I have 17"s already so that won't be a problem. So I guess I'll either try avoiding driving during the winter altogether or find a car wash that won't screw up my rims. Is there a way to tell if a car wash place's tracks will damage the rims or not?
 

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Re: Moving the R to NY - Winter questions. (PhilUp)

That is the much better Bronx and inside parking, no problem<p>I thought you might be parking outside at Hunts Point or something <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>You do have to be careful coming and going around south of there though
 

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park it until April and get a beater to drive around....yes, it will suck but your R will love you come spring..........ok, so maybe a "winter getaway" up north, just to keep the carbon off the plugs.....that would give you some pleasure without the misery<p>ps...I lived in Westchester......but I didn't own my R then, had an Sti and I'd try to salvage the potholes and salt from your car if you have a chance
 

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Re: Moving the R to NY - Winter questions. (PhilUp)

I would keep the car parked in a garage for much of the time you have it there. You won't exactly have a lot of free time in med school. My brother went to Einstein 25 years ago and his Vega survived its time in the Bronx just fine.<p>Mount some all seasons on your 17's and look for a self serve car wash where you can hose it off yourself from time to time.
 

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NY roads suck real bad. Just to give you an idea. My first car, I hit a pothole, actually, more like a void in the road that cost me 2 bent rims, 2 flats, and 2 destroyed shocks. In the R, just a little bit ago, I had 2 flats, alignment knocked out by a hole in the road. 1 week later, I hit a raised ledge on the LIE (highway) bent 2 rims and knocked the car out of alignment again.<p>Maybe it's just my bad luck? I don't know, but certainly drive slow when you're around unknown roads. <p>Lastly, in the winter time, I always try to keep at least half a tank, just to be safe.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HJZ</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">NY roads suck real bad. Just to give you an idea. My first car, I hit a pothole, actually, more like a void in the road that cost me 2 bent rims, 2 flats, and 2 destroyed shocks. In the R, just a little bit ago, I had 2 flats, alignment knocked out by a hole in the road. 1 week later, I hit a raised ledge on the LIE (highway) bent 2 rims and knocked the car out of alignment again.<p>Maybe it's just my bad luck? I don't know, but certainly drive slow when you're around unknown roads. <p>Lastly, in the winter time, I always try to keep at least half a tank, just to be safe. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>HJZ, I completely agree with what you have to say. My wife hit a huge (18" deep) pothole merging onto the BQE in her S40. Bent the rim and cracked the windshield. The R does not go into the city because of that. <p>Good idea to keep a 1/2 tank in the winter...my dad once got stuck on the Henry Hudson during a blizzard in the early 80's and couldn't get out for 12 hours. He was on the elevated section, and there wasn't a way to get down save for walking all the way back to the exit at 125th street. He ended up turning his car off and sleeping in the back of a limo that was parked next to him and had enough gas to idle all night.
 

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Re: Moving the R to NY - Winter questions. (PhilUp)

I am not a fan of car washes (kill your paint and probably your rims), so I'd look for a self-service car wash. They usually offer a high powered hose so you can really get into the wheel wells and underside of the car.<p>I bought the F7s from tire rack with Michelin Aplin's, you can't beat the price for beater rims that actually look nice.
 

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Re: Moving the R to NY - Winter questions. (PhilUp)

My recollection, from when I lived in NYC, if the pothole had been reported to the City you could recover your damages caused by it. That may have changed but if it hasn’t, it may be worth a try if your R gets wacked. If you see one that is in your “hood,” report it, just in case. Indoor, secure parking is a must for any kind of upper level car. Parking on the street at night is an invitation and alternate side of street parking rules are a science if you want to avoid tickets. Public transportation (subways) are the best way to get around during the day when traffic is at its heaviest. However, I don’t know the Bronx that well and taking a subway to or from your area may be interesting. NYC has a lot to offer, especially if you have the $$ but as a med student time may be even a bigger challenge than money. Good luck!
 

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Re: Moving the R to NY - Winter questions. (Shipmate)

It's like an old video game "Asteroids"....you constantly have to keep an eye out for something in the road...I have the 'R' and a Saab 9-3 Convert.<br>Both cars suffer over train tracks, speed bumps...etc.<br><U>Do Not</U> install springs if you are going to be concerned about the roads, it will change the way the 4C feels and make damage that much more likely....that being said, I have done just that and now I have two sets of rims, one set unscathed and the other recently refurbished. It is a catch 22 with the springs. You can't have the car handle the way it should without it being stiffer yet you lose the ability to have a softer more compliant ride when necessary.
 

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Re: Moving the R to NY - Winter questions. (PhilUp)

bring your car up to elmsford ny and get it washed at the auto spa once a month in the winter and if you need service to big dee volvo.i certainly didnt drive anything like an r when i was a med student resident or fellow and recently got mine after being an attending for 17 years!!!
 

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Re: Moving the R to NY - Winter questions. (drpie)

Wow I didn't expect so many replies! Thanks for all the advice guys. Hmm...I'm starting to have doubts about bringing the R now. The main reason I wanted to bring it is because I just love driving so much. In undergrad, just driving to and from school was the highlight of my day since all I did otherwise was study or spend time with my current fiance (not that the latter was painful or anything!). Not sure if it's worth all the trouble and possible damage to the car now. I might have to bring the family beater - a 740 with no AC <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0">.
 

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Re: Moving the R to NY - Winter questions. (PhilUp)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PhilUp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I might have to bring the family beater - a 740 with no AC <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0">. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>That is what I would do at first and then you could have a better feel as to what it would be like to have your R there.
 

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Re: Moving the R to NY - Winter questions. (Wayne T5)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Wayne T5</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is what I would do at first and then you could have a better feel as to what it would be like to have your R there.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yea that would be the smart thing to do but oh man is that 740 depressing to drive. Now that I think about it, I have this classmate who bought a brand new black G35 coupe during the middle of the year. Now get this, he bought the manual with <B>19" summer tires and wheels</B>. He didn't change them out during the winter. I've seen him a few times in the outside lot just trying to get out of the parking lot. He had to get his passenger to push him out. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> I should ask him how he got by with such a thief/pothole magnet like that.
 

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Re: Moving the R to NY - Winter questions. (PhilUp)

Bringing the other car first is a great idea....if your really not going to have tons of free time to 'cruise' in the 'R' and you commute is going to be by rail then why take the risk of theft or damage. I know I'd miss my ride but I'd be more upset if I drove the car once a week and it got dings, flats and low gas mileage with no pleasurable driving experience included.
 

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Naaaaah, Bring the R and don't drive lika a maniac in the city. There's plenty of great driving north of the bronx in Westchester and north of that and also in CT. Avoid Long Island if possible. It seems that as soon as you're over any of the bridges into Queens or Nassau County, courtesy is out the window, drivers are either stupid or ridiculously agressive and the cops are too busy sitting under a tree to do anything about it. If you drive like that, then c'mon down. No tickets and you can do whatever you want.<p>Watch out for the long Island Left, if you come here. That's when the first car in the turning lane makes a left in front of oncoming traffic as soon as the light changes to green. I've driven all over the country and this is the only place i've ever experienced it. EVERYONE here does it: kids, grandparents, cops, school buses, grabage collectors.<p>Finally, go eat Italian food at Dominick's on Arthur Avenue at least once a week and park in the muni lot next door.
 
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