That's a tough mark to hit. The BMW 550i is probably the closest thing out there. It has the 400 HP covered, and comes in at just over $60k, but you have to choose between AWD and MT - can't have both.
And I will wish him plenty of luck of finding an acceptable 550 for $60k...That's a tough mark to hit. The BMW 550i is probably the closest thing out there. It has the 400 HP covered, and comes in at just over $60k, but you have to choose between AWD and MT - can't have both.
Since "IwantaS60R" didn't specify AWD, he should high tail it down to his local BMW dealer and get "in like Flint"
LOL...you guys are funnyAnd I will wish him plenty of luck of finding an acceptable 550 for $60k...
Clearly not, that 550i weighs in at over 4100 pounds!!! While the X60 Polestar weighs in at about 3550 pounds.That's a tough mark to hit. The BMW 550i is probably the closest thing out there. It has the 400 HP covered, and comes in at just over $60k, but you have to choose between AWD and MT - can't have both.
Since "IwantaS60R" didn't specify AWD, he should high tail it down to his local BMW dealer and get "in like Flint"
While BMW has long been the benchmark for performance sedans, the current 5-Series, in attempt to be as luxurious as its rivals (Remember BMW used to be sportier than its rivals but not as luxurious) has lost its signature "sporty-ness" and by no means are they very reliable. Audi is now king of having one of the best mixes of sports car driving dynamics while having the benchmark interior at the cost of horrid (Well, VW group in general) reliability. Volvo and Mercedes Benz have been switching spots for 10th place in most reliable auto maker and as of late Volvo has that spot. The other europeans are either average, or in Jaguar/Land Rover/Audi/VW's case, always breaking down (though their excellent customer service usally helps ease the annoyance of taking your car to the dealer constantly).LOL...you guys are funny
To be perfectly honest, I'd go for the BMW all things being equal (price, etc. - don't really need AWD in FL) BMW is a known quantity in terms of performance, reliability and service of true performance sedans. If Volvo shows that they can make a solid, reliable sports sedan at that performance level and have a solid, COMPETENT, service department that can fully support it, then maybe we can talk apples to apples on this one. Until then, Volvo will have to give me some incentive to buy into that, sorry. $60k comes in a little less than the competitors which would be my incentive, at least the obvious one and I'm willing to give them a shot too.
You're being generous - the 550i actually weighs in at over 4300 pounds. But despite that, the flabby luxobarge still has 52/48 weight distribution, and knows its way around corners.
....and you really think a production version of the Polestar s60 would remain at 3550? A street production version would come in at least 3900 lbs. Still less than the 4300 lbs of the rather portly BMW but let's not kid ourselves into thinking that the polestar would be at 3550 for the prod version. Still, with the weight the BMW handles great and performs pretty well too. 5.0 0 - 60 is still pretty nimble. In any event, I would love to see a polestar s60 in production but just not going to pay M3 money for the first incarnation of it, sorry.
I'm not saying that the BMW is crap at handling or anything, I'm just saying that it's not ideal for spirited driving, nor BMW's best attempt for around the same money. But in anycase what are you on about the Volvo gaining weight!? As long as it keeps its transmission it keeps the reduced weight, Polestar didn't take ANYTHING away when making the S60 Polestar they only shaved weight via a lighter 6-speed transmission. Even the regular S60 R-Design doesn't weight more than 3800 pounds so there's no reason to assume it will magically gain 400 pounds. And remind me again why you wouldn't pay M3 money for something that will absolutely slaughter the M3? And IF you still wouldn't remind me again why you're even bothering to reply to my comments instead of posting all over the abundant M3 forums of how much you wouldn't pay for this Volvo.
Nimble, yes, but if you've been in a car that hits 60 in closer to 4.0 seconds you know that there is an absolutely massive difference between these two that the numbers on paper can't even hope to represent clearly.
No one. Which is precisely why Volvo should.
