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New England driver, have set of winters. have used max perform summer, ie Bridg. RE050A's , goodyear eagle F1's, but really want to slightly downgrade to get a smoother, more comfortable ride and stretch the seasons a little. thinking of going to ultra high performance all season category, ie Yokohama Advan S4 or Pilot sport a/s plus, <p>thoughts on those pics and the category? thanks
 

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The new Pilot Sport A/S with the extra treadwear probably lead the class but are expensive.<br>If you can afford Michelins they are usually very good. For lower cost and still good in the class<br>are the Pirelli Nero M+S
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>row</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">New England driver, have set of winters. have used max perform summer, ie Bridg. RE050A's , goodyear eagle F1's, but really want to slightly downgrade to get a smoother, more comfortable ride and stretch the seasons a little. thinking of going to ultra high performance all season category, ie Yokohama Advan S4 or Pilot sport a/s plus, <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I've run RE050As and Eagle F1s and IMHO both were as smooth and comfortable as any all-season I used back before I ran winter/summer sets. Just get another set of RE050As. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Check out the new Conti Extreme Contact DWS. 540 tread wear rating and only $150 per. The old version got a lot of <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">s from R owners. If the redesign would have come out 2 months ago I would have tried these out. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: more tire questions (Warpedcow)

do like the Pole Positions but treadwear is very poor.... but they sure are sticky
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>row</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do like the Pole Positions but treadwear is very poor.... but they sure are sticky</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The Bridgestones wear lots better than the Eagle F1s. But yeah, most all season tires will wear better than any summer tire.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Helmut Ranff</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The new Pilot Sport A/S with the extra treadwear probably lead the class but are expensive.<br>If you can afford Michelins they are usually very good. For lower cost and still good in the class<br>are the Pirelli Nero M+S</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Helmut, do you have experience with the new Neros? They have been significantly re-designed. <p>As noted above, the ContiExtreme Contact has been completely re-created into two tires: Continental ExtremeContact DW (summer) and DWS (all-season). <p><A HREF="http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ExtremeContact+DWS" TARGET="_blank">http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...t+DWS</A><p><IMG SRC="http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/conti/co_xtrcontactdws_ci2_l.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>row</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and provide a smoother ride? i am assuming</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Not necessarily. <p>Also, be careful what you wish for. You don't want to get too squashy: I downgraded from the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S to the Pilot Exalto A/S. They are a nice tire but do not match well with the R.
 

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good tip, how did you like the pilot sport a/s on the R
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>row</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how did you like the pilot sport a/s on the R</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I have been running the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus (the one Helmut mentioned above) for about 18k miles now. I've been very pleased with their performance on all surface conditions including snow/ice. The 17-inch will give a slight wheel rub but only on tight turn-ins. They are not as quiet as the three sets of Michelin PS2 summer tires but very close. I paid $207/tire installed at Costco and would definitely make the same choice again. They are worth the extra cost and are the only Z rated tire with a mileage warranty. I run the VR a couple of times per year in TX unrestricted and need the Z rating for that purpose. <p>
 

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IIRC, Advan S4 has a sub 200 treadwear rating. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>row</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">New England driver, have set of winters. have used max perform summer, ie Bridg. RE050A's , goodyear eagle F1's, but really want to slightly downgrade to get a smoother, more comfortable ride and stretch the seasons a little. thinking of going to ultra high performance all season category, ie Yokohama Advan S4 or Pilot sport a/s plus, <p>thoughts on those pics and the category? thanks</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Also a NE driver here...and bought ultra high performance all seasons. Got the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Positions in 245/45/17. I had to put 5mm spacers all around with the stock pegs to limit the rub, but this is a FANTASTIC tire.<p><A HREF="http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE960AS+Pole+Position&partnum=445WR7RE960PP&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes&place=14" TARGET="_blank">http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...ce=14</A>
 

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I have had the Michelin A/S for about a month and really like them. Great tread life warranty also. My gas mileage is slightly less with the Michelin's and according to all of the reviews is very common. I'm not for sure if that's the case with all A/S tires or not as I have always had Summer tires but I definitely get less MPG, still highly recommend the tire.
 

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I have a set of P Zero Nero M+S on one car and P Zero Nero All Season on another car. Have had the M+S before and like them very much. Have about 1,500 miles on the All Season and they seem to have a quieter ride. Performace seems about the same... but I really haven't tested them in all types of situations yet.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Helmut Ranff</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes Joe and I give the new Michelin the edge over the new Pirelli. The old Pirelli I really liked</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Too bad. <p>At that price point, I'd go with the Michelin. I liked my old PS A/S and from everything I have heard the new ones are even better. <p>From a price perspective, the Michelin and Pirelli are in the same category - the 17" size is $178 / ea for the Michelin vs. $165 for the Pirelli. <p>The Conti Extreme DWS is the lower price point tire at $ 127. <p>
 

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I can highly recommend 2 tires, as I have used only these for a long time on several cars and am in NE as well<p>Toyo Proxes 4.<br>Nitto Neogen<p>Pros.. cons Toyos were amazing even in the snow and had very slightly bettter lip protection. better wear but a bit louder. softer sidewall<p>Nittos..quieter. a bit stronger sidewall . great tread pattern.<p>For NE though and the roads, I will stick with the nitto;s<p>Either set can be had installed in the <br>$ 550.00 range<p><br>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Helmut Ranff</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The new Pilot Sport A/S with the extra treadwear probably lead the class but are expensive.<br>If you can afford Michelins they are usually very good. For lower cost and still good in the class<br>are the Pirelli Nero M+S</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I just got the Pilot Sport A/S Plus and I'm impressed with the tire so far. This is after a set of PS2, but wanted a little more tread mileage so went with the all-season. There is about a 10%-15% drop in grip from the PS2s, but a fair trade off.
 
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