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Just as an FYI for anyone with irregular tire wear, the alignment does not stay too solid on the XC90, at least not on ours. We have ~35,000miles now and have had the car aligned anually, and it is ALWAYS off. We had our steering rack replaced under warranty ~6mths ago and I assume a complete alignemnt was done at that time. Well, we just had the ball joint recall (Service Campaign 157) performed and the Total Toe was out by more than <B>3 degrees </B><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0"> I am hoping the ball joints caused the problem, but time will tell... <p>My tires are holding up fairly well, but this car can eat tires on its own and does not malalignment helping... BTW my Nokians are holding up with their second summer in AZ, <B>105+ EVERYDAY</B>. I now have around 23,000 on the tires and they are looking like they might make another 10k if I am nice and the alignment can hold...<p>Todd
 

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Re: More Alignment woes (Colorado XC90 T6)

Our alignment seems fine, but our tires have just 11,000 miles on them and are getting polished on the outer edges (fronts only). Typical FWD wear characteristics. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>There really isn't much you can do short of cranking in a few degrees of negative camber (most likely impossible). The suspension just isn't designed for it.<p>There is no excuse for a vehicle to eat tires in this day and age. Just unacceptable.
 

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Tires/alignemnt one of reasons I am moving on....

Me too. On second set of tires and three alignments later at 18,000 miles. Dealer claims alignment - but for 3 year old car to continual have this problem and no one with repair that works, just one of the many problems on my XC90. First and last Volvo for awhile. Nice car but Volvo still needs to do a better job at the little things and be more proactive in addressing issues that seem pretty common. This problem has existed for 4 years and I know 2006 owners seeing same thing.<p>I am trading in the XC90 for the new Audi Q7.
 

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Re: Tires/alignemnt one of reasons I am moving on.... (tric)

I'm wondering what constitutes as "common"? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Tires/alignemnt one of reasons I am moving on.... (1sttimevolvo)

Common meaning - problems that appear on many vehicles and finding a solution quickly. Since 2003-4 it took two years to get a fix for a tranmission shift, 3 years for a bearing solution/recall and a solution for the alignment / premature tire wear which has not been resolved. Grandted not everyone has these issue, but certainly prevalent in more than just a few owners.
 

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Re: Tires/alignemnt one of reasons I am moving on.... (tric)

But that seems to be as nebulous as the term "common". I would think that a problem that's common would practically require a recall. In fact, there's been 3 recall items on our car that have been addressed, yet none of the problems that resulted in the recall were exhibited by our car.<p>It seems difficult at best to guage what's common based on postings hereon, especially when we represent a fraction of a percent of total owners.<p>The reason I asked was I thought perhaps the reference to "common" was based on some figures of some sort, i.e. problems common to XC90's being found in some publication. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Tires/alignement one of reasons I am moving on.... (1sttimevolvo)

No - just using the word "common" based on what two dealers have been telling me. They have seen it in many cars - however, no stats available.
 

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Re: Tires/alignement one of reasons I am moving on.... (tric)

<p>It all depends on drivers and how the vehicle is used. Mostly in town with faster driver I would guess faster tire wear. Mostly freeway or slower driver in corners then long tire wear. If you dont slow for<br>speed bumps, or have a tendancy to bump curbs then the aligment will suffer.<p>Some think the xc90 is a sports car and have high tire wear, well then slow down. Towing will also cause fatsrer than normal wear. Soft tire compound will too.<p>Way too many variables to just say it is common or not, but some have seen it.<p>The stock tires have a softer compound, my next ones will be ones with a hard compound as we drive slower and the drawbacks are minimized.
 

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Re: Tires/alignement one of reasons I am moving on.... (calridng)

I don't think averaging 18-20 mph around town qualifies as driving fast - especially considering vehicle driven by wife with kids. Yes - highway driving would minimize issues more so than driving around town.<p>I can also compare to a BMW with similar driving habits and high performance tires. That vehicle has no such issues. The Volvo is a combination of i) bad stock tires and ii) suspension and alignment that creates wear.
 

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Re: More Alignment woes (Colorado XC90 T6)

Tire rotation seems to be the best solution to tire wear and percieved alignment issues. I'm on my second XC90(1st a 04 2.5 FWD and now an 06 V8) and have had very good tire wear and no alignment issues from either. Both had 18' Michelins and I rotated every 3,750 miles when I would have the oil changed.<br>As a former Service Director of a Volvo dealership and now working for MB I can tell you that the manufactures what to keep maintenance costs down by extending the tire rotation times so they look better in publications like Edmunds when customers are shopping for a new vehicle. All manufactures play this game not just Volvo.<br>The tire manufactures want to see tire rotations at least every 5,000 miles and keep them properly inflated (I use the pressure rating listed on the inside the door jam).<br>Bottom line..... I suggest tire rotations no later than every 5k and check your tire pressures once a month. Alignment should be check when abnormal tire wear is noticed.<br>Both XC90's than I have owned have given me great service with very liitle issues. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/cool.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: More Alignment woes (1v8volvo)

On MOST US roads (except perhaps FL, you need to align a car quite frequently, like every 4 to 6 months.<br>Our rough and potholed roads knock it out very quickly.<br>I have to align my R every 4K or so or about every oil change!!<br>I have 22K on it and must have already aligned it 6 or 7 times.<br>(Once for spring install and once for new rack, paid for by Volvo, all others were on me after 12K miles)
 

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Re: More Alignment woes (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On MOST US roads (except perhaps FL, you need to align a car quite frequently, like every 4 to 6 months.<br>I have 22K on it and must have already aligned it 6 or 7 times.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>6-7 Alignments!!!!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> That sounds like a bit much. Seriously, my old Audi A4 was practically driven off road weekly and I had it Aligned once in 4 yrs and the specs were not even off...<p><B>Here is the real question, Why does a car go out of alignment?? There are no magic wires or sensors, it is the result of supposedly solid metal control arms, ball joints and tie rods bending, stretching or wearing!!!</B><br>That should not happen every few months!!! If your roads are that bad, causing such wear on your front end, your wheels should all be bent!!<p><br>I am now in Arizona, Glass smooth roads where we travel and my alignment gets 3 degrees out in Toe in ~5mths. Still sounds excessive to me <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br>Todd
 

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Re: More Alignment woes (Colorado XC90 T6)

2003 no problems<br>2006 16k alignment out<br>I am not in the ball joint recall<br>Two bearings out, 2003 took till 40k for bearings to fail
 

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Re: Tires/alignement one of reasons I am moving on.... (tric)

Then common = relative.<p>Our dealership hasn't seen this as common as of yet. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I'm surprised we haven't had to have an alignment done outside the tie rod end recall.<p>I've reviewed our service records and after 54k we're alignment-free thus far,<p>Heck, in 38k on my `05 Silverado company truck, I've had to have 2 alignments thus far.
 
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