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Why did Volvo choose to put the Pirelli P Zero Rosso's on our cars? After finally getting fed up with the headache-inducing beat from my tires, I took the rears to get balanced again. It turns out that the tire itself is warped sideways. I asked to see the tire on the balancing machine, and sure enough there was maybe 5mm side to side motion on the tire. I'm not willing to risk my life or car to extract another season out of these tires, so I just ponied up for a set of 245/40YR18 Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetrical summer tires. I can't wait for these to arrive, every review has said great things about the performance and even greater things about how darn quiet they are. I had the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3's on my last car (VW Passat), and they were absolutely fantastic. I'm glad I will finally have a luxury car that performs AND in which I will be able to carry out a conversation. In any case, it still boggles me that the OEM Pirelli's were so bad. They came out 7th out of 11 overall in Car & Driver's last review, and were 2nd to last in the lateral grip category, which is...uhh...just about the most important thing in a sports sedan. I hope the Goodyear's don't disappoint.
 

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Cost, minimum performance spec, lowest bidder.<p>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>chinaonnitrous1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cost, minimum performance spec, lowest bidder.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><br>NARROWEST of the bunch not much rubbing, if any<br>These are now at least <B>a 10 year old tire,</B> what would you expect performance wise?
 

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Re: Miserable OEM Tires (Evos_R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Evos_R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I hope the Goodyear's don't disappoint.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No complaints at all with mine and I would assume the two types of Goodyear's are similar. The GS-D3's absolutely rival the Michelin PS2's on my friend's M3 and are around $300 less a set. You won't be disappointed!
 

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Sure took you long enough to wear out 5 year old tires. As others have pointed out, Pirelli and Fjord have a cozy arrangement that is cost beneficial. That's why you see Pirelli on many of their cars. That said, the F1 is prone to rubbing so best order 5mm spacers.
 

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Re: Miserable OEM Tires (Evos_R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Evos_R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why did Volvo choose to put the Pirelli P Zero Rosso's on our cars? After finally getting fed up with the headache-inducing beat from my tires, I took the rears to get balanced again. It turns out that the tire itself is warped sideways. I asked to see the tire on the balancing machine, and sure enough there was maybe 5mm side to side motion on the tire. I'm not willing to risk my life or car to extract another season out of these tires, so I just ponied up for a set of 245/40YR18 Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetrical summer tires. I can't wait for these to arrive, every review has said great things about the performance and even greater things about how darn quiet they are. I had the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3's on my last car (VW Passat), and they were absolutely fantastic. I'm glad I will finally have a luxury car that performs AND in which I will be able to carry out a conversation. In any case, it still boggles me that the OEM Pirelli's were so bad. They came out 7th out of 11 overall in Car & Driver's last review, and were 2nd to last in the lateral grip category, which is...uhh...just about the most important thing in a sports sedan. I hope the Goodyear's don't disappoint.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>PZero Rossos are standard fit to Lamborghinis and Ferraris. They are not poop tires. <p>However, they are a bad match to this car's suspension, in general.
 

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Re: Miserable OEM Tires (Evos_R)

your tirepressure was way too low<br>they wear fast and therefore cheap-people call them poop <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>and JRL is mixing them up with the original Pzero asymetrico (god I <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emlove.gif" BORDER="0"> those) ones that came with 850 T5-R.<br>Rosso's are not THAT old.
 

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Re: Miserable OEM Tires (MagoonR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MagoonR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sure took you long enough to wear out 5 year old tires. As others have pointed out, Pirelli and Fjord have a cozy arrangement that is cost beneficial. That's why you see Pirelli on many of their cars. That said, the F1 is prone to rubbing so best order 5mm spacers.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>These aren't the tires that came from the factory (i'm at 52k miles), but I got the car in April and the last owner must have been the kind of person to take the dealers word on everything. I'm guessing they just said "ok" when the dealer said they needed to be replaced. I already have 10mm front and 15mm rear spacers, so I should be good.<p>Tire pressures are definitely not low, I don't know how that even came up. I run at 34 for street and much higher for auto-x etc. Either way, comparably, I think these tires suck. ESPECIALLY considering how fast they wear. If i'm leaving that much rubber on the road I'd expect to stick to it better! I'm not saying that these tires aren't better than a lot out there, but in their class they are bottom of the heap. The partnership between Ford and Pirelli makes sense now.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RyanD</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No complaints at all with mine and I would assume the two types of Goodyear's are similar. The GS-D3's absolutely rival the Michelin PS2's on my friend's M3 and are around $300 less a set. You won't be disappointed!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I agree, I was considering the PS2's as my dad has a set on his Acura TL and loves them. But there was a $70 per tire difference in cost so the choice was easy, especially because the Goodyears beat out the Michelins in road tests.
 

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I replaced my original tires with GY f1's....they were great for about 10,xxx miles.....but got very loud and out of balence fast.<p>Even with rotating them every 4-6k miles....they were loud as hell. And i couldnt keep them inbalence<p>you have been warned.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>NARROWEST of the bunch not much rubbing, if any<br>These are now at least <B>a 10 year old tire,</B> what would you expect performance wise?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think we all expected Volvo, a modest yet seemingly-intelligent brand, to provide something in-line with the nature and spirit of the car.<p>Unfortunately, that's exactly what they did. <p>A car that is essentially a T5 with a strange suspension and bolt-on upgrades everywhere just happens to include tires that ALSO fail to do justice to the spirit of the car, as perceived by many of us who are now R owners.
 

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I just got the car back from the alignment shop, and WOW I love these tires. My first impressions were that handling was not as tight as the last set, but that is most likely due to tread squirm on the full depth tread. Grip is out of this world. I took the clover on ramp that leads to my work, and the car stayed neutral about 10mph faster than I could take that turn before. Ride refinement is WAY better, as is road noise. Unfortunately, it turns out my right rear wheel bearing is going out. Oh well. As to my comment about my tire pressures being correct, I humbly admit my mistake. I had no idea I was supposed to be running 39psi. Thanks for the heads up.
 
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