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So, after 5 months, and 16k km of ownership, I may be kissing my problem child goodbye. I love the car to bits, WHEN it is functioning as it should. Sadly, that's not very often. From creaking seats to slipping clutch, and a ton of crap in between, I'd just as soon see it go away.<p>So, I went and drove a 6 speed S60 T5 tonight. Told my dealer I'm not willing to pay any extra, but I want to hand over my V50, and take the key to an S60. Considering the huge deals on 06's right now, and the fact that they have an 05 still on the lot(the one I drove), it should be doable. <p>If it doesn't work out, I'll keep my V50, deal with the problems, and buy something else in 3 years. Not a huge deal either way.<p> Al
 

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Must be a Surrey thing... I got my S40 from a dealer in Surrey... in the UK :><br>Anyway, I've done the same, handed it back to them, they paid the finance off so I lost about 4-5 months of what I paid when I owned the car (on the verge of getting this back).<br>Same as you, when it functioned.. it was very nice to drive but more often then not it had its faults.<p>I got a S60 in the end and like you, was offered a T5 S40, or a V50. Both I said no to and so I got the S60<p>Apart from a fog light and a brake service required on the first 3 days, the car has been running flawless without any issues. Infact, its one month this week that Ive had it and Ive done 3000 miles without any problems after the above.<p>Its bigger, less responsive (diesel compared to petrol s40) but its a great price to pay considering how much i save on petrol and going back to the dealers every 3 days because of faults!<br>very happy with it and although I miss the floating console, I will never miss the fact it was not expandable. I am getting a screen from pioneer fitted in soon with sat nav and all that so I'm doing without the built in one.<p>Anyway let me know how you get on. No bad talk about the S40... loved it but had one too many issues.
 

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Re: Might be saying goodbye to my V50.... (Al Canuck)

Wow Al, this is sad. I remember you being so excited about your future V50, and then getting so many little annoying problems...<br>Anyway, I hope it all works out to your satisfaction, S60 is a nice vehicle, though different. Not as much fun as 40/50, but I loved every bit of it when I had it, except large turning radius.
 

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Re: Might be saying goodbye to my V50.... (Al Canuck)

Sorry to hear about your issues with the V50. At least you'll have the free maintenance if you move into the '05 S60.<p>Good luck...
 

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sorry to hear about your problems, but having had a T5 myself, you won't be disappointed if you make the switch. i loved mine!
 

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Yeah, it is kinda sad, really. I was very excited to pick it up, and I still love the car, WHEN it works. <p>I just spoke with my original sales guy, and he had nothing good to tell me. He's telling me to get into an 05 S60 is going to be about $200/month MORE than my V50(remember, this is a lease through my business). He can work better numbers on an 06, so I'll be waiting to hear more from him in a while. <p>Meanwhile, I've heard nothing from the other dealership the V50 is being serviced at.<p> Al
 

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If the situation is anything like the U.S. an 06 will lease better, but an 07 will lease even better than that..<p>The 06's here have terrible residuals already, combine that with a business lease (which typically is charged an extra tier with a non-VCFNA deal) , you may want to look at the 07's... (if they are even available up there yet)<p>
 

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So, not going to happen. I will be living with my V50 for a long time to come. It's currently on the hoist at the dealer, getting a brand new clutch installed in it. That's a big plus for me, and goes a long way to at least renewing faith in my service department.<p>On top of that, sales guy can't work the numbers to get an S60. Looking at a HUGE increase in payment, as I'm getting destroyed on depreciation with a 6 month old V50. Also, dealer is going to be keeping the car for some time, at least until the shop foreman comes back from holiday next week. I've sent them a list of 22 items wrong with my car, from mundane, to serious. I've asked them to work through them, and get back to me. Clutch was a HUGE one, as is the seatbelt, both of which have been taken care of today.<p>So, hopefully this will take care of my problems. If not, I'll keep dropping it off, picking up a loaner ,and waiting for the day it makes sense to buy something else. Such a shame, as I love my V50, and really wanted to buy another Volvo next time as well.<p> Al
 

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Re: (Al Canuck)

Good luck... It sounds like you still have a positive attitude.... I wish you the best and hope everything is smooth from here on out... I like the v50 too, and you have one with very nice equipment....
 

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If the car is in for a while, and it sounds like your keeping a level head about it and not shouting at dealers, it could be a good thing - IME the delalers are always better about prblems if you don't shout at them.<p>I've had mine for 18 months now and put 30,000 miles on it, only problems have been a leaky washer jet and creaky drivers seats. The rest of teh acr feels solid and every time I get in it I feel good - usually that's worn off after 6 months in a car <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> Hang in there Al, it may all come good.<p>Rich
 

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Well, maybe this time they will sort all your car's problems out and from now on it'll be near perfect... [saying with hope]<br>Yeah, dumping 6 mo old car would have taken arm and leg, basically you are getting hit with all non-recoverable fees, like shipping, PDI, AC and some other taxes, plus huge depreciation of course. It'll flatten out with time, but not the first few months anyway.
 

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Yeah, I'm keeping a level head, for sure. My service advisor could tell I was frustrated, but I've not yelled at anyone. <p>Just an FYI for those who don't know me, but I am a mechanic by trade, and have been for 11 years now. I spent 3 years in a VW/Audi dealership, and now own Pacific Auto Restorations Inc. In other words, I've spent more time on the other side of the counter than most, and I know what it's like to have an angry, irritated customer. Not fun, and not condusive to doing your job any easier. <p>I've agreed to let the service advisor and a regular tech work through as many issues as they can, and then let the shop foreman go over it all when he gets back next week. <p>Funny side note. My dad has owned 6 or 7 Volvos since his first, back in 1988. It was an 88 740 turbo wagon, which he bought brand new. Turned out to be the worst car ever built. Worse than my V50. After 6 months of ownership, Volvo Canada agreed to buy it back, and give him another one. That was supposed to happen on August 15th, 1988. August 11th, we were on the way to Toronto Airport, and were T boned by a 5t truck doing 70km/h, AFTER being hit by a K car turning left in front of us. 5 in the car, all of us walked away except for my mom. She was fine in the end, but suffered a concussion, broken ribs, and a dislocated shoulder. So, in the end, the car performed perfectly, and served us well, despite being a complete lemon. Dad has never even considered another car since then.<p> Al
 

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Well since it looks like you are stuck with this car just make sure that you don't take it back and or give loaner back util you test drive the car and ensure ALL issues are fixed. I can't begin to say how annoying it has been to have to bring the car back an hour, a day or a week later becuse they didn't fix the exact problem you pointed out to them.<p>Just see my signature for detalis.
 

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That's too bad, it was nice to have you on here. I've also had the creaking seat (passenger), I had a service recently though and they fixed it (supposedly there is a technical bulletin for "adjustment" of the seat), they did that as well as cleaned some more glass out of the tracks and all seems well.<p>I've also had the exploding sunroof as well as a creaking/scratching passenger window, which for now, seems ok after the dealer visit.<p>I must say though, I thought i'd see less problems with a Volvo which is one of the reasons I was convinced to move from VW. If the new VW product keeps improving like it has and Volvo's doesn't, in 3 years I could see myself moving back.
 
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