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Running out of mods to do on my car, and this is one I've wanted to do for a while. <p>I was trying to decide between Autometer Cobalt and Blitz DCII. <p>Blot's Blitz DCII = $115 for Live Unit + $200 for boost gauge<p><IMG SRC="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/KaminariAndachi/b0df206e.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/KaminariAndachi/7e2f5521.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/KaminariAndachi/efd12936.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/KaminariAndachi/fec858da.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>BOOSTED's Autometer<p><IMG SRC="http://www.ecmoto.com/images/mikey/Picture%20089.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Blot's set-up show water? temperature, but the temperature I think I am most interested in is IAT, but I don't see a gauge for that. Blitz offers an exhaust temp gauge or a water/oil temp gauge. <B>Is there a gauge for IAT, or do I have to use a OBD-II tool?</B><p>So, then I'm looking at this site...<p><A HREF="http://www.boostcontroller.com/index.php?category=132" TARGET="_blank">http://www.boostcontroller.com...y=132</A><p>and I appears I can go with a mechanical Autometer for $65 or electric for $200.<p>No idea pros/cons of either other than price. Also, <B>do I want one that just shows boost: </B><p><IMG SRC="http://www.boostcontroller.com/products/GB-6104.gif" BORDER="0"><p><B>or one that shows vacuum and boost</B> (do I care about amount of vacuum?)<p><IMG SRC="http://www.boostcontroller.com/products/GB-6103.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Think I'm gonna go with Autometer, since it is only 52mm versus Blitz 60mm, and I will probably only one one gauge like Johann<p><IMG SRC="http://www.swededemon.com/images/S60R/S60R-4.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>(although I really like Blot's set-up). <p>Johann, if I brought a mechanical Turbo boost with me to ring, along with a gauge cup<p><IMG SRC="http://www.boostcontroller.com/products/ms2204thumb.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>could you help me install it? I found your diagram, <p><IMG SRC="http://homepage.mac.com/jdijkstra/.Pictures/ext/vacuum.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>but don't know how to route line through firewall, (or what I'm doing).<p>Or is the electric better/easier to route that makes it worth the extra money? <p><B>Please advise</B> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Mechanical or Electric boost gauge?? IAT gauge? ("R" Kelly)

Probably want to get one that shows vacuum too, as long as you plumb it in after the throttle plates. If you plumb it in before the throttle plates the non vacuum one should be fine. To do it correctly manifold pressure is sensed after the throttle and before the valves anywhere.
 

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Re: Mechanical or Electric boost gauge?? IAT gauge? ("R" Kelly)

the autometer cobalt looks ugly in teh daylight. the blitzh gauge looks good day and night. IMHO
 

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Re: Mechanical or Electric boost gauge?? IAT gauge? (23109VC)

I like blot's setup MUCH better. Better looking gauges, and better to have all gauges in one sight line, IMO. And I know that people have said that pillar mounted gagues won't interfere with the airbag, but I have my doubts.<p>Also, if you think you're running out of mods to do, I'm sure that there are some that we can think of to keep you busy. BTW....you'd better keep thinking that you're not going to change your ECU for warranty reasons. Because once you've done that and don't care about the warranty any more, I have the sneaking suspicion that you're going to start tearing your engine apart! <p>
 

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Re: Mechanical or Electric boost gauge?? IAT gauge? ("R" Kelly)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>"R" Kelly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Running out of bolt-ons to do on my car </TD></TR></TABLE><p>*fixed <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>you definitely have one of the hottest R's on here but there is ALOT more you can do... just not much left for bolt-ons. Like the gauge idea and the CAI (which was brilliant btw) there is much more potential but more custom work needs to be implimented.
 

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Re: Mechanical or Electric boost gauge?? IAT gauge? ("R" Kelly)

<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br><IMG SRC="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/KaminariAndachi/16d7bfac.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/KaminariAndachi/1d540939.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/KaminariAndachi/15d77f04.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>A new addition...Oil Press.
 

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Re: Mechanical or Electric boost gauge?? IAT gauge? (blot)

ok Blot, that is just the shiznit. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>and I notice that your<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> matched your gauges. <p>How exactly are you attaching them, L bracket, tape?<p>but aside from some aesthetic comments (thanks sean, I think LED is always on, so cobalts look good, even in the day <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> ), no one has answered the questions.<p><B>Any advantage to electric boost gauge over mechanical, especially since it costs $140 more? <p>Is monitoring exhaust gas temp provide useful information like monitoring IAT? I mean if it is hotter coming out, was hotter going in? <p>Is there any way to monitor IAT without an OBD-II tool?<p>Johann, is a mechanical boost gauge something that we could do easy at the ring? </B>
 

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Re: Mechanical or Electric boost gauge?? IAT gauge? ("R" Kelly)

Kelly:<p>In the case of my Defi and Blot Blitz electric gauge, the brain /controller unit of the gauge allow me to set the warning light activation point, allow to record/recall max boost (on the boost gauge) and also allow you to record/replay (in my Defi) up to 90 secs of the gauge movements plus brightness level of gauge (at two different lighting conditions). How useful these features are up to each user. <p>I like also not having to run tubing from the sensors to the gauges. Most electric gauges locate the sensor in the engine area and runs thin wire to the gauges/controller unit.<p>On my old Mazda 323GTX AWD, I have both mechanical boost and electric IAT gauge. This allow me to monitor the IAT so that when adjustment/change was done on adjustable boost controller (HKS EVC), I can adjust the piggyback engine computer (HKS PFC-Con) to bring temperature back to range. However once adjustment were made I hardly touched the computer. After that the IAT is mostly just information. There was an occasion when my IAT was higher than normal and it was eventually got traced to the cam timing problem that was taken care by Mazda on a manufacturer recall.<p>HTH<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by awdnut at 11:30 AM 3-27-2006</i>
 

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Re: Mechanical or Electric boost gauge?? IAT gauge? (blot)

blot,<p>do you have any install pics/instructions (where did you put the live box, ...). I really like those gauges and if it is easy to install i will get them and install them myself.
 

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Re: Mechanical or Electric boost gauge?? IAT gauge? (blot)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>blot</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>A new addition...Oil Press.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I noticed this is a standard item on my wife's Peugeot... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Mechanical or Electric boost gauge?? IAT gauge? (fischmama)

The Live box is somewhere under the steering wheel area. There's a removable plastic covering (where the driver's footwell light is) where the live box can be mounted - plenty of space in there.<p>R Kelly - the gauges are mounted using small aluminium L brackets sprayed black and 3M double sided tape. Very secure and they have never dropped off.
 

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Re: Mechanical or Electric boost gauge?? IAT gauge? (Johann)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Johann</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I noticed this is a standard item on my wife's Peugeot... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>It was also standard on my Volvo 480 ES from '87! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> plus oil- and water temperatur (digital and choice between degrees or fahrenheit).
 
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