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Ladies and Gents,<p>I was thinking about getting my AWD lowered, and was wondering if anyone had any experience/thoughts/comments about this. On the plus side my car will look a lot meaner, but on the negative I'm guessing it won't be as good in the deep snow that seems to accumulate in my neighbourhood. <p>Your feedback would be greatly appreciated....<p>
 

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My car turns into a snowplow with anywhere more than 5" of snow, it drives, but the snow accumulates on the front bumper, and you can hear the car really pushing the snow along. You've got to play it really safe on steep driveways and street changes, because you're car will scrape the front bumper a lot if you're careless.<p>The positives include meaner looking, better handling provide you have nice tires, and i've noticed not much of the ride comfort has been compromised.
 

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VOID WARRANTY on all suspension and steering components.......... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Jeff
 

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Re: Lowering - Pro's and Con's? (owlslapper1)

Thank you for your responses guys, regarding the warranty that is kind of surprising (although it makes sense) because it was the sales manager at the Volvo garage who first suggested I got it lowered. But you have both given me something to consider, thanks again.
 

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Re: Lowering - Pro's and Con's? (owlslapper1)

You might have some camber issues depending on the drop.<p>The stock shocks might wear out faster with the springs.<p>If you can't do it yourself, finding a shop that does good work without charging you a lot may be difficult.
 

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Re: Lowering - Pro's and Con's? (owlslapper1)

I wouldn't worry TOO much about the warranty thing. They have to PROVE that whatever was installed caused the failure. If your powersteering pump goes, they aren't going to deny warranty because you installed springs. If you Blow out a strut, then maybe.<p>If you're worried about it though one thing that wouldn't hurt is to talk to your dealership and feel them out a little. You don't have to mention springs just get a general feel as to their impression of modding. Sounds like your dealership is ok with it though.<p>I see you're from Edmonton, welcome, I'm from Calgary. There is a Volvo mechanic here in the city but I have yet to use him.<p>I'm slowly losing interest in the idea of modding the volvo though, I'm more tempted to pick up another VW to play with.
 

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Re: Lowering - Pro's and Con's? (TFS)

funny about the Void the warrenty thing because some Volvo dealers even sell Heico lowering springs as well as wheels with other than stock offset 18 x 8 volutions et 45 , etc. , my dealer even sells the Heico chip and exhaust.
 

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Re: Lowering - Pro's and Con's? (V50_T5)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>V50_T5</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">funny about the Void the warrenty thing because some Volvo dealers even sell Heico lowering springs as well as wheels with other than stock offset 18 x 8 volutions et 45 , etc. , my dealer even sells the Heico chip and exhaust. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yea, the other thing I find funny too is that it's always "suspension", or "chip" that everyone says will "void your warranty" but no one ever talks about "Cold air intakes" (probably the MOST likely to void a warranty) or "swaybars", or "boost gauge". Too much fear mongering <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Lowering - Pro's and Con's? (TFS)

Like said above, you would have to feel your stealership our towards aftermarket modification. If they are against it, they will act as if any mod you do is responsible for any vehicle malfunction no matter how unrelated it seems. And although its on the stealership to prove that an aftermarket mod was responsible for failure, you will have to jump through hoops to prove them wrong. <p>Having said that, I'd still take the chance.
 

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Re: Lowering - Pro's and Con's? (MarvynDT)

Alright, so I lowered my with H&R Sport Springs.<p>The ride IS stiffer but its not unbearable as I do mostly highway driving so its not to bad.<p>There will be camber issues but a good shop should be able to correct the front camber slightly while the rear is a lost cause.<p>Looks are much more aggresive with the sport springs and I like it overall especially with 18" rims.<p>As for the warranty....that depends on the dealership. Mine has gladly replaced two strut bearings that went bad probably because of the sport springs but they had no problem replacing them. Build a good relationship with the dealership and talk to them regularly. I call my dealership like 2-3 times a week to talk about random car things and info I might have about the Volvo scene they were unaware of. <br> If they feel like they know you on a more personal level than just another customer they are more likely to help you out. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Lowering - Pro's and Con's? (Tarheelvolvo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Tarheelvolvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There will be camber issues but a good shop should be able to correct the front camber slightly while the rear is a lost cause.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Could you please provide your alignment numbers after lowering the car?
 

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Re: Lowering - Pro's and Con's? (quick)

If I knew them then I sure could but I havent a clue what they are. When I had mine adjusted last I went to a local gas station cause a Volvo dealer wasnt near by and they just called the closest dealer to get the figures.
 

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Re: Lowering - Pro's and Con's? (Tarheelvolvo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Tarheelvolvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There will be camber issues but a good shop should be able to correct the front camber slightly while the rear is a lost cause.<br> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Looks like somebody found an answer to solve rear camber issues. <p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=59346" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=59346</A>
 

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Re: Lowering - Pro's and Con's? (MarvynDT)

Yep, just saw that. Looks good <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Might have to see whats going on with that. Punkkid, any comments on it so far? Installation tips, guidelines, etc...?
 

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Re: Lowering - Pro's and Con's? (owlslapper1)

I am not a P1 S40/V50 owner, never the less I do own S40 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> (first generation MY01).<br>My car is running on TME sport springs, KONI yellow adjustable shocks and TME front tower struct brace AND Pzero tires.<p>+ves:<br>- Looks fantastic.<br>- Handling is improved<br>- when on good roads the ride is good and gives a really nice feel of the car.<br>- This suspension setup is not just lowering (like the ones you find on cheep japanese cars) so the car feels really going going over bumps and its snot bouncy.<br>- The car feels tougher as a single solid unit.<br>- If you are a highspeed freak you will really appreciate the extra grip it will provide. I've tested it @ 160mph and it felt as if I was running on rails or if it was hugging the road (that good)<br>- In the previous generation S40 (don't know about the P1) it had a problem that whenever you were speeding and you pass a large truck or something the car felt a bit fishy (as if a strong wind is trying to push laterally)... This has improved alot afer lowering.<br>- If you track your car you will appreciate it even more (I never did take my car to the track).<p>-ves:<br>- You will need to put a budget for repainting the front spoiler lip (I ran outta money after painting it few times <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> )<br>- In my case scraching the front mudflaps over speed bumps is an everyday experience.<br>- With the help of Pzero the ride is absolutely unforgiving over poor quality surfaces.<br>- In some countries lowering is prohibited<br>- If you live in an area with terrible roads the car will start to rattle sooner than it would with stock setup (and same driver/roads)<br>
 

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Re: Lowering - Pro's and Con's? (ZAF)

Small children and mother in laws have problems getting into a car that is too high. So if you are a responcible husband, father and son-in-law , you will lower your car to correct these problems. while my teen aged daughter may be almost as big as her mom 5ft 5 in , she's still 5 in shorter than me , so as a responcible father , I decided on her , their behalf to lower my car. <p>This was a tough decision, but regardless of the increased handling, LOOKS etc. I did it for them. my mother in law is proud!
 

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Re: Lowering - Pro's and Con's? (ZAF)

handling is NOT improved by lowering a car. How could it. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> and yes I race cars on the autox. Please don't go into the center of gravity deal, <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Lowering - Pro's and Con's? (owlslapper1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>owlslapper1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ladies and Gents,<p>I was thinking about getting my AWD lowered, and was wondering if anyone had any experience/thoughts/comments about this. On the plus side my car will look a lot meaner, but on the negative I'm guessing it won't be as good in the deep snow that seems to accumulate in my neighbourhood. <p>Your feedback would be greatly appreciated....<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'm sure you'll void a warranty or two somewhere. Not to mention the overall driveability of your car will change dramatically. You may experience tire rub too.
 

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Re: Lowering - Pro's and Con's? (owlslapper1)

My experience with loweing springs (your mileage may vary)<p>Pros<br>- drastically improved steering feel (bye bye buick feel)<br>- less body roll<br>- those who are 'into that' think it looks nice sitting lower<br>- it does feel more solid/planted/controllable at high speeds (as in 200kph)<br>- wonderful road feel on a smooth road<p>Cons<br>- rougher on any type of road with cracks bigger than a hair-width<br>- spring seats break faster than normal<br>- will require better shocks and bigger sway bars if spring rate is higher resulting in extra cost<p>
 

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Re: Lowering - Pro's and Con's? (Oldman)

not really sure if handling is improved or not, but oldman you seem to have a lot of knowledge on various subjects, to include this. so why does eibach etc sell springs? all promising the improved handling etc? lowering springs make a car lower, that we can all agree apon but what else?
 
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