I used to have an S60R. I bought it with 15k and sold it with 55k. I had what I would consider "average" reliability with it. Nothing major ever broke, but I had a handful of minor stuff go wrong while I owned it, that I don't think I woudl have dealt with had I owned an Accord. BUT - I modded the hell out of my S60R.... look up my old posts...<p>anway, I sold that S60R, bought a nice new MDX for my wife. I drove our older S70 the next couple of years...I bought myself a used Boxster as a TOY / fun car. let me tell you that thing is FUN.<p>now my S70 has 140k on it, the A/C is dead, it rattles like nuts, it has it's fair share of little "things" are worn out...and I hoenslty don't like it anymroe. it's plenty fast, as I have an IPD exhaust on it...sway bars....R bumper cover makes it look cool... anywyya, a relative wants to buy it from me and give me $2500. i figure with the AC issue, thats' fair. the car has a lot of good stuff on it, i've done a lot of upkeep on it...<p>anyway, i've been researching what I coudl buy to repalce my S70 with. i need something with 4 doors, that can fit three kids in teh back, that can hold "kid" stuff and be a realistic "spare" famly car to complement our SUV. I don't have to have anothe rSUV, but I can't have a civic. <p>I looked at used Acura TLs, IS350 (way too small), don't like manh of hte american cars, BMW too $$$, <p>I found myself looking at used R's again. I don't know if I woudl want anohter S60R, but the V70R woudl be appealing. total sleeperm, very cool looking, very rare, ,lots of room for stuff.... <p>I found one near me for sale, that is only $16k. it's at a dealer. not CPO. it has 80k miles on it. <p>if I bought a V70R, i'd like throw on an IPD ECU, maybe some sway bars/springs and that would be IT. no downpipes, no exhaust, nohting drastic. i'd want something that ift smy kids, looks nice, drives nice, and when I nail the gas, will get up and go.<p>but I also want to be on a budget, so a used V70R..might fit the bill. I also don't want to be best friends wiht the service guy either. I want the car to be reliable..somethig I can depend on and not worry abou tit breaking down.<p>my S70 has been ROCK solid. yeah it rattles, has squeeks...but it's never broken down. in many repsects i felt it was a better car than my S60R...but in the S60R's defense, my S70 has NO real engine/pwoertrain mods and I drive it more sedately anyway....<p>I've got a boxster, which from time to time will nail me for $$ repairs. I don't want anothe rcar that's gonna do that.<p>one reason I got rid of my S60R was I worireda bout all the liekly repairs I might get hit with. clutch, new shocks, et cetc etc... in retrospect, maybe I shoudl have kept it given all the $$ i dumped into it..but hoenstly, I want'ed something more "fun" and the boxster, while slow in comparosn to a soupled up R - the Boxster is a go cart/ top down toy. i love it.<p>i now need osmething in the 15-25k range that can haul my kids when we don't want to take the SUV. i don't want to spend $30k+ and want to try and save money. <p>what have many of you seen now that the R's have been on the road since 2003-2004 - and many are hitting the 100k+ point - are they holdling up, or are they having massive issues with engines, turbos, tranny,, etc...<p>if my S70 is a barometer of how they old up, i'd be happy to get one. if the S/V R cars are having LOT of dpenedability issues as they age.... it might be osmethign to avoid.<p>thanks for all your suggestiosn.<p>any of you seen my old R rolling around?: i wonder whatever happened to it.