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I was leaving for work this morning and pressed unlock as I approached the car. Heard the doors unlock and saw the signals flash. I put my bag in the back seat when I drive, so I reached for the left rear door handle to access the back seat. When I pulled it, the door didn't open. Looked at the door lock pin to check and it was down (ie. recessed into the door panel) in lock position. So I pressed the unlock button again, and it still stayed there. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>So... from the front door, I reached into the back seat to pull the interior door handle. When I did so, it came up and I could open the door from outside normally. When I drove off, all the doors auto-locked except that door. So at the next stoplight, I just used my hand to push it down & lock the door. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>When I arrived at work, I unlocked the doors with the button on the front door. Got out of the car and pulled at the left rear door handle to get to my bag. And again, it refuses to open because the door lock pin is down in locked position. So... reach into the back from the front door again and unlock the door from the inside. Imagine the frustration after fighting through the morning rush hour. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>So.... long story short, all the doors are working fine except the left rear door. I can't use the lock/unlock buttons on the front doors or the key remote (ie. electronically) to control the door pin on that door for lock/unlock. I can still lock/unlock that door but have to do so by hand (push the pin down to lock the door, pull the interior door handle twice to unlock and open it).<p>Any idea what's the culprit? I don't think it's the locking mechanism acting up because I still can lock the door. I hope this doesn't cost me a rocket to fix... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I had a similar issue on my passenger side front door... got it fixed under warranty, they replaced the whole control unit for the passenger side doors (front and rear) - they told me that I would've looked at 260 euros, so roughly about $370 for the door module if it wasn't under warranty.
 

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Had a similar issue in my S60. Occasionally the rear driver's side door wouldn't lock with the rest. Ended up having the whole door replaced due to an unrelated issue, and now it works fine! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Best guess was that the door module had gone south. But, you can pick up a used one and it should work without a hitch (as far as programming goes) as that was the case for my car.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>crossie</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had a similar issue on my passenger side front door... got it fixed under warranty, they replaced the whole control unit for the passenger side doors (front and rear) - they told me that I would've looked at 260 euros, so roughly about $370 for the door module if it wasn't under warranty.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>If it's the same control unit that's acting up on my car, then I got to get ready to shell out a load of cash get it fixed... my car is 5 years old (ie. out of warranty long ago) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Anyway, got a service appointment booked next week. Doing a regular service at the same time...
 

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Re: Left rear door lock pin refuses to obey lock/unlock buttons (frontwheeldriven)

mine was doing this as well... It did it for over a month. My rear drivers side would just stay unlocked. Then, the passenger side started screwing up and would only stay locked! I had to reach around the front to open the back. <p>Recently, my car went dead and I replaced the battery. Alas, everything works fine now. Go figure.
 

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Re: Left rear door lock pin refuses to obey lock/unlock buttons (frontwheeldriven)

There's a defect with your controller. Have it checked
 

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Re: Left rear door lock pin refuses to obey lock/unlock buttons (frontwheeldriven)

Have you ever removed the door panel to do anything (rear tweeter install or door pins)? I think that your symptoms can happen if you don't plug the connector back in by accident. Hopefully this guess isn't out of line... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I had some crazy poop happen to my windows one day. I put them both to auto up and when they both hit all the way up one decided it wanted to do auto down also. The thing was my hand was nowhere near the button.
 

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Re: Left rear door lock pin refuses to obey lock/unlock buttons (PepperEvans)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PepperEvans</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's a defect with your controller. Have it checked</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Hi...<p>For some reason or another on the day of the service appointment it finally worked fine!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>So far so good... been more than a month already. <p>Stealth, I have never really messed around with my car. Everything is bone stock (and yes the car is sky high... essential to clear those killer speed humps). The only non-original stuff is the clear window film I did to keep the heat out.
 

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Re: Left rear door lock pin refuses to obey lock/unlock buttons (frontwheeldriven)

Intermittant door lock and window failures can be caused by corrosion in the front door harness connectors. Recall 167 was to grease them to keep water from destroying the terminals but in most cases was too late.<p>Updated door harness connectors with new gold plated terminals have been released and are to be replaced if the symptoms occur and multiple DDM and PDM codes are stored.<p>Last set I did was about 750$ with parts and labor, all dealers are different but just a heads up.<p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SiCkEsTC30</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I put them both to auto up and when they both hit all the way up one decided it wanted to do auto down also.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>As for the window going back down, you need to do a window calibration. Manually roll the window up, release button and then hold the up button again until the window shutters <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Left rear door lock pin refuses to obey lock/unlock buttons (ForceFed Motorsports)

Do you have part numbers for the recall? How hard would it be to do-it-yourself?
 

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Re: Left rear door lock pin refuses to obey lock/unlock buttons (ion)

Door harness replacement is a TNN not a recall thus why its not covered outside of your warranty. I can get you part numbers but unless you have advanced electrical experience I would not suggest trying it on your own. It requires rewiring your door and body harness with the new connectors. It says master technicians only on the top of the TNN front page.
 

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Re: Left rear door lock pin refuses to obey lock/unlock buttons (ForceFed Motorsports)

It looks like a lot of work, but it doesn't look that complicated. Anyways, the TNN included some DTCs that people might find useful in determining if they have this problem (on another note, I'll probably be doing a review of a really cool OBDII reader soon). Here's a pdf of the full TNN: <A HREF="http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=1bff8ae4a85ef8b924a64199ac7f73e5e04e75f6e8ebb871" TARGET="_blank">http://www.mediafire.com/?shar...bb871</A> and if anyone knows a site that will store this file indefinitely, maybe they can upload it there and post a link...
 

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Re: Left rear door lock pin refuses to obey lock/unlock buttons (ForceFed Motorsports)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ForceFed Motorsports</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Last set I did was about 750$ with parts and labor, all dealers are different but just a heads up. </TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I'll feel my wallet vapourize if it happens again. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Left rear door lock pin refuses to obey lock/unlock buttons (ion)

No the harnesses are not that difficult, but seeing how most have troubles removing the door panels this isnt exactly a walk thru the park. Must remove the doors, remove the door speaker and cut out and splice a new door harness connector. While the doors are still removed you need to pull as much harness slack from the body harness out in order to do the same. Can assure you that most will struggle and mistakes do take place, pretty much 80% of the wires are solid black <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Left rear door lock pin refuses to obey lock/unlock buttons (ForceFed Motorsports)

I'm resurrecting this thread because my car started doing the same thing (rear drivers side lock doesn't respond to remote or drivers controls). <p>One thing I noticed is that I can still control the window on the affected door from the drivers controls, is it normal that when the door harness goes out you only lose control of the lock and not the window?
 
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