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Im very close on purchasing sport shocks by the end of this week, so I did some "online research" aka reading heh. I read on the Saab forums that using shorter shocks like the Bilstein Sprintline are best for lowered cars since they are shorter. I was also told by a car nut friend from work. Anyone can agree with that? Though I'm still looking around online where I could order them. If anyone knows pls post link <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">. <p>Anyway, quite a few who have had lots of experience with these Sport Shocks do some type of combinations by using Koni Sport on the front and Bilstein's (hd's, tc's or sprintline) on the back. Any of you have this combo? Due to Koni's "oil pressure" they're really good for the front by preventing the feel of ugly bumps and holes on the road where Bilsteins suck at I guess. <p>Any comments, suggestions, rants, are welcome, or you can even talk about your dogs or what type of laundry detergents you use. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Koni Sport on the front with Bilstein HD or Sprintline on the back? (LAGIM 187)

Never heard of those Bilsteins, certainly not made for Volvos.<br>You do NOT want the rear stiffer in the rear so try to keep the struts and shocks the same
 

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Re: Koni Sport on the front with Bilstein HD or Sprintline on the back? (JRL)

I thought you recommeded bilstein hd on the front, maybe, but tc's on the back. Now it sounds like you would go tc's all the way around or go to some other brand. <br>As a side note, I just had a bilstein hd go bad in 2 years so don't buy them thinking they will be the last shock you will ever need. Also the warranty thing is not easy to do.
 

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Re: Koni Sport on the front with Bilstein HD or Sprintline on the back? (rogeej)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>rogeej</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought you recommeded bilstein hd on the front, maybe, but tc's on the back. </TD></TR></TABLE><br><B>Noooooooooooo.</B>!!!!!<br><B>I HATE</B> the HD's on a Volvo, too stiff for me, the roads here (PA) and the (crude) Volvo rear suspension in general.<br>I used to use TC's but now am a convert to Konis. They are SO GOOD on my 850R it's unreal. The car just keeps getting better as the shocks, sway bars and tires have 1000 miles on them now and as they say, "just breakin' in" <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Koni Sport on the front with Bilstein HD or Sprintline on the back? (JRL)

so bilstein hd's are a no no ?
 

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Re: Koni Sport on the front with Bilstein HD or Sprintline on the back? (LAGIM 187)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LAGIM 187</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so bilstein hd's are a no no ? </TD></TR></TABLE><br>For ME they are. Some here like them but our roads are too bad as now are CA roads. Pretty stiff and jarring on poor roads.<br>Yellow Konis are by far the best for me now, no bouncing around but good control
 

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Jim, you didn't mention the springs. Seems to me the change in springs on the front along with the Koni's was the telling factor (H&R, I believe). Am I wrong?
 

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I don't think so. The weight of the car is supported by the springs not the shocks. Change the springs.<br>I may agree with JRL on the hd's being a bit stiff in the rear of a v70. Try the Koni's, but change the springs to change the height.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>dicostal</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I were to buy the Bilstein HD, will they raise the car back up?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I don't know about those but the tourings definitely will, which is why I like Bilsteins WITH a front lowering only spring. The spring will lower the car about 1.3", the Bilstein will raise it back to about 1" which work for me. This will give the car a <B>very slight</B> front rake leaving stock springs on the rear.<br>Don't put the TC's on the rear or it will also raise it too and the look/stance will be defeated and the rear will have a jacked up look to it<br>I've never tried this; springs and TC's on the front and stock springs with perhaps Konis on the rear could be a great combination <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>It depends on what you're trying to achieve
 

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Re: (JRL)

JRL,<br> I definitely want to lower the car, right now the front is to high. For traction purposes you want the front a little lower then the back, so you try to keep more weight on the front wheels while accelerating. The thing is I need to change all 4 shocks.... Otherwise I would try changing just the front only... I'll keep my eyes open for the next sale LOL.<br>I think I will be getting the H&R springs, with the Koni sport, about $700 for the pkg, I think that is the best combo IMOP.<p>Thanks<br>
 

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Hi, I'm buying a '98 V70 T5 wag tomorrow and I need some advice. This is my 1st Volvo <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emlove.gif" BORDER="0"> . <p>I've got a good 15 years into VW's and ready to enjoy my new Volvo and see what it has to offer. I have a 2004 Jetta Wagon with H & R Springs and Koni adjustables all around. <p>Do you think they would be a straight swap from the Jetta to the V70? Wishful thinking? Maybe... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Thanks all. <p>
 

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Highly doubtful.
 

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I'll weigh in on the plus side for Bilstein HDs on the front. I put them on my '98 V70 XC and love them (and believe me, the roads here in NJ are no prize). I left the stock Nivomats in the rear, and kept the stock springs all the way around. I really like the ride, and the front end is much crisper now. I would not describe the ride as harsh.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Mk1Racer</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'll weigh in on the plus side for Bilstein HDs on the front. I put them on my '98 V70 XC and love them (and believe me, the roads here in NJ are no prize). I left the stock Nivomats in the rear, and kept the stock springs all the way around. I really like the ride, and the front end is much crisper now. I would not describe the ride as harsh.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>One of the issues with HDs lies in the valving. For some reason, when used with lowering springs, the HDs do not allow the springs to settle to their full potential. Also, the ride is not as smooth as with Koni adjustables. Bilsteins are one of my favorite shock companies and I think they make the best shock out there in the affordable price range, but they have yet to make a good shock for volvo applications IMO. The HDs for the 800 series platform are not revalveable like those for the older 200/700/900 since they are not a mono tube design.
 

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Are you going more for the ride quality? I haven't used Koni's or the Bilstein HD's yet, that's the reason why I started this thread, I want to get as much info on wich is best. Some say Bilstein are much better because of their handling, Some say they suck because they wear out fast and they give a harsh ride. Like you, some say Koni's are better because they give a far more smoother ride than Bilstein, some say they're not all there when it comes to performance....<p>so yeah this sucks im a little confused.
 

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gdogg. I know It'd be hard to get a "smooth" ride when you start changing stuff around but I guess I'd like the ride to less harsh but with just as good if not better performance.<p>So yeah, better performance, smooth-ER ride(less harsh), and that sweet lowered look. I know I'll be using H&R even though my friend who's one of the master mechanics for Volvo here lives and swears by Eibachs are better.
 
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