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Anyone here have the koni yellow adjustable shocks? Can you shed some light on how stiff they are and how the ride of your car changed compare to stock?<p>I've heard some people say "They're just like a straight piece of metal tube, hard as a rock, of course they last forever..."<br>and some say "They're great, stiffer but not harsh"<p>How was your experience with them compare to stock or other shocks that you tried? <br>
 

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Re: Koni adjustable - how do you like them? (xtremepsionic)

I bought my '95 854T from Terence and it came with the koni shocks...they're stiffer than the bilstein hd on my '90 244 and Kai's c70, but I think it goes very well with the 850...what kinda springs do you plan to pair the konis with?
 

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Re: Koni adjustable - how do you like them? (Stoned)

thinking about eibach, but if they're that stiff (stiffer than Bilstein hd) then its probably a bit too much for what I want...
 

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Re: Koni adjustable - how do you like them? (xtremepsionic)

Yes, but performance minded! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> Stiff means less roll...
 

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Re: Koni adjustable - how do you like them? (steve s)

don't think so<p>I remember someone saying the softest setting is as hard as bilsteins.
 

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Re: Koni adjustable - how do you like them? (xtremepsionic)

I have the Konis, they can be adjusted to be softer than Bilstiens, but they still are harder than stock. The biggest issue is springs, if you use any aftermarket sport springs, that will hradent he ride up a lot, and there is nothing you can do about that. My ride is pretty hard now, using TME springs, but I dont mind it. Actually as it breaks in it gets better, and I have found myself turning the knob to tighten the ride up. If you crank it down to its hardest setting, then you get a ride on rails, and I would say that is only for track use. None the less, I really like the Konis, best shocks I have used yet, and it gives me something to play with. My only complaint is that the rears can only be adjusted by removing the wheels, and I thinkt he shock, but Im not sure of that. I know you can adjust them as you do the front, but Im not sure how you adjust the rears, I havent seen that yet. The shop put them on for me, and now I cant find the shock instruction manual to see, hehe, Oh well, no biggy.
 

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Re: Koni adjustable - how do you like them? (pj's 850)

Hey man, this page might help you!<br><A HREF="http://www.koni-na.com/adjustment.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.koni-na.com/adjustment.html</A><p>unfortunately the rear ones have to be taken out to be adjusted... oh well<br>most of the action is up front tho, since about 60% of the weight of a 850 is up there and those are the wheels that turns <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmile.gif" BORDER="0"><BR><BR>
[Modified by xtremepsionic, 9:04 PM 11-13-2002]
 

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Re: Koni adjustable - how do you like them? (xtremepsionic)

How do you adjust the front ones? Where do you put the knob?
 

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Re: Koni adjustable - how do you like them? (xtremepsionic)

The top of the strut which extends into the engine compartment is where you attach the knob. I installed the Koni adjustables last month and have been happy with them. They are definately firm...but I like being able to adjust them. Reviews I read said they weren't as firm as the Bilsteins but had a similar level of performance results which is what made me choose them.<p>In hindsight though, I don't know if I would have been better - or just the same - off if I had kept the stock suspension and added a front sway bar. I did not add any sport springs and still have stock -- if it is stiffer with sport springs, then that would be too stiff for me. I was looking to reduce body roll and feel strong through the turns but I also haul family and friends and therefore wanted the ride to remain comfortable.<p>I'd be interested to hear from those who have installed a front sway bar and the results.
 

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Re: Koni adjustable - how do you like them? (854R)

how do you like the ride of your car now? I heard some people say its actually less "harsh" on rough roads, although it is firm...<br>is that how you feel about it?<p>was the performance really much better than the stock shocks?
 

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Re: Koni adjustable - how do you like them? (xtremepsionic)

I guess it's hard to gauge everyone's standard on the ride's harshness. I thought all the 850s already have rougher rides than the 70 series...so it's hard to make a good judgement. Like Stoned said, the Koni's on his car just felt extremely harsh at times; especially, when you adjust the front to almost the stiffest setting, you feel like throwing up riding in the car.<p>On the other hand, I have Bilstein and H&R on my C70, and it is absolutely much softer rider than the 850...it almost feels softer than the stock when going over bumps.<p>But I can assure you with the springs Mark has in his car and Koni dampers, the ride is just not really suiteable for daily driving, at least for my taste. I need to see how crazy those new coilovers will feel like.<p>You WILL feel every single bump on the road with those Konis, and it wouldn't be less harsh than stock....since we are always able to compare this 850 to Matt(Prospero) stock suspension 850. I would not lie to myself and call it less harsh on rough roads.
 

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Re: Koni adjustable - how do you like them? (The_one_n_only)

hmm<p>Would Bilsteins be better then?<br>But if the koni's can be adjusted to be a little softer than Bilsteins...<p>I don't think I'll go with lowering springs tho, so the ride wouldn't be "horrible"<p>so still a decrease in ride quality with the koni's... just that I've heard some people said they take the initial sharpness of a bump out, thats why it feels a bit better than the stock dameprs.
 

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Re: Koni adjustable - how do you like them? (xtremepsionic)

Yeah, can't really comment on the softest setting for the Koni since we haven't swap them out with the Bilsteins yet to compare. It might be just that the 850s were built to be much stiffer body/ride than the 70 series.<p>We should be able to find that out soon enough when I get my Bilteins outta the C and put them on the 850.<p>I guess most of the decent aftermarket performance shocks out there will get that "sharpness of a pump" out. Some of them will feel more harsh than stock ones, but all in all worth the investment, though.
 

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Re: Koni adjustable - how do you like them? (xtremepsionic)

I do feel that the ride is a little less harsh in ways, I would say that taking the initial harshness out is a good word for it. What I notice is that small bumps seem to be absorbed well, plus you get none of that aftershock. There is no Cadilac boat ride left in the car, not that there was much to begin with. I have to say however, my rear shocks were broken, so its possible that my ride was worse than normal by far, but I had the car like this so long, I took it as normal. The springs are what adds the most stiffness, I have heard this from people over and over again, and my experience is that the springs add the most stiffness to the ride. Now I know that stiffness doesnt mean harshness, but for the most part, close enough. The TME springs I got are pretty stiff, I have heard that Intrax are much worse, even stiffer. I drove a friends VW with Intrax springs, like on rails, but way to stiff for anything but track driving in my opinion. He has Bilstien shocks however, so its not like a direct comparison, along with 19" wheels and zilch for sidewall on the tires.
 
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