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MY06 S60R key fob suddenly is not initiating the lock and unlock button commands. I thought at first it may have been the key but grabbed my backup fob and had the same issue. Basically all buttons on the fob do not work. Any ideas guys?? Thanks in advance.....
 

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Re: Key FOB not functioning (caliS60R)

If nothing works, including the yellow button for the entry lights, I would expect that the remote receiver is not functioning. <p> Look at your owners manual for fuse locations for the fuse that powers central locking system. That may be the issue, but then you will want to determine just what made the fuse fail in the first place.
 

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Re: Key FOB not functioning (rogersampson)

Try taking the R logo piece off the fob and adjusting the battery...take it out and put it back in tightly. Or the battery may be dead.
 

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Re: Key FOB not functioning (soledoc)

You can also "<I>re-train</I> your remotes by turning the key to the #1 position and back again 5 times within 7 seconds and then hit both remotes "<I>arm</I>" buttons right after the key turning. If you have good batteries in both remotes then this will solve the problem. Rick
 

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Re: Key FOB not functioning (Mash)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Mash</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can also "<I>re-train</I> your remotes by turning the key to the #1 position and back again 5 times within 7 seconds and then hit both remotes "<I>arm</I>" buttons right after the key turning. If you have good batteries in both remotes then this will solve the problem. Rick</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Have do tried this procedure? Does anthing happen to acknowledge that the car is in 're-train' mode or to acknowledge the key has ben detected? It sounds pretty cool that you can have your carn learn you key without VADIS/VIDA. Can you buy a new key and save the shop charge and program is yourself this way?<p>LTA<br>
 

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Re: Key FOB not functioning (LTA)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LTA</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Have do tried this procedure? Does anthing happen to acknowledge that the car is in 're-train' mode or to acknowledge the key has ben detected? It sounds pretty cool that you can have your carn learn you key without VADIS/VIDA. Can you buy a new key and save the shop charge and program is yourself this way?<p>LTA<br></TD></TR></TABLE>It is not the key that is in question. (I believe) It is the buttons on the remote in question. So to have an alarm system "<I>re-learn</I>" the code that the car already has is the answer I gave above. I have had 4 different alarms on 4 different cars in the last 6 years and all of them had this procedure to make the remote "<I>talk</I>" to the car. You would have to <I>activate</I> a new key to talk to the car (so it would start) Then you train the electronics in the key to talk back to the car (alarm system, unlocking and locking etc.) This is just from my experience with other aftermarket alarms. Not OEM, but I would think that the procedures are the same.(Or similar)
 

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Re: Key FOB not functioning (caliS60R)

Burn the toast, turn three cartwheels, and then put on sunscreen...<p>It's an '06. Let the dealer sort it out. You shouldn't have to.
 

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Re: Key FOB not functioning (Mash)

Nice explanation and description MASH .... even I understand now <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> .<p>I have had my 06 FOB go FUBAR for about a day and a half, then cleared up and hasn't happened since. I am sure unless I can duplicate it that the dealer wouldn't be able to help me much.
 

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Re: Key FOB not functioning (Mash)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Mash</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It is not the key that is in question. (I believe) It is the buttons on the remote in question. So to have an alarm system "<I>re-learn</I>" the code that the car already has is the answer I gave above. I have had 4 different alarms on 4 different cars in the last 6 years and all of them had this procedure to make the remote "<I>talk</I>" to the car. You would have to <I>activate</I> a new key to talk to the car (so it would start) Then you train the electronics in the key to talk back to the car (alarm system, unlocking and locking etc.) This is just from my experience with other aftermarket alarms. Not OEM, but I would think that the procedures are the same.(Or similar)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Mash, Volvo keys and remotes don't work that way. According to VADIS documentation you must have VADIS connected to your car to program keys & remotes. Keys and remotes come with unique codes, those codes are loaded into the immobilizer and centreal locking systems (maybe CEL too) via VADIS.<p>caliS60R - Sorry we got side tracked. If no buttons work on both remotes there is likely a problem in the car. I think RogersSampson is on the right track:<br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>rogersampson</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If nothing works, including the yellow button for the entry lights, I would expect that the remote receiver is not functioning. <p> Look at your owners manual for fuse locations for the fuse that powers central locking system. That may be the issue, but then you will want to determine just what made the fuse fail in the first place.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's fuse #28 in the trunk.<br><A HREF="http://apps.volvocars.us/ownersdocs/2006/2006_S60/06s60_11b.htm#pg161" TARGET="_blank">page 161</A><p>LTA<br>
 

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Re: Key FOB not functioning (Mash)

sorry- not even close...an 06 ? maybe a 96 850 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Key FOB not functioning (lowbumpeR)

In all of the sytems I have installed and had installed the <B>key</B> is the only part that needs to be reprogrammed. The alarm sytem has <B>rolling codes</B> therefor once the car is on an <B>open rolling code setting</B>(via the description above) the car is just waiting for an <B>open</B> code to be introduced by <B>any Volvo </B> remote you choose. Regardless of the remote systems serial #. Once the car is in an <B>open code status</B> and you press the arm button (you will see the car arm) it is now married to that remote (that is the <I>specail code you were refering to that actually changes every time you activate/deactivate the system</I>. That is how any remote alarm sytem works. Programs are for the keys and <B>open coding</B> is in the alarm. The coding is closed once a remote(s) are married to a specific vehicle. Barring the simple fact that there is not a blown fuse or other wiring issues. Which are very good suggestions. Might as well start simple and work your way down the line. I am just putting a few ideas out there for ouR fellow <I>SS</I>'er <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Key FOB not functioning (Mash)

I have a different problem with my key fobs, the metal triangle to hold it to a key chain has seperated itself on both. <p>Have you all experienced this, what did you do? Right now I have a twist tie holding it on, but damn that looks tacky.
 

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Re: Key FOB not functioning ("R" Kelly)

Kelly, I had the same issue and mentioned it to my dealer and found out that the keyfob is warranteed the same as the car. 4year 50,000 miles. They replaced the whole unit under warranty because of the little metal triangle(when I had my factory alarm activated) Rick
 

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Re: Key FOB not functioning (Quick Brick)

Sorry for the delay in posting to this but I've been out....I tried the 5 key turn and "arm" trick a couple of times as suggested but it didn't seem to work. I decided that that I'd have to do it the old fashion way and take it into the dealer come next week. On the way back to my car this afternoon I hit the "un-arm" button and it now worked!?! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> Its been working ever since.....so maybe the "5 key turn" trick worked or was it that it went FUBAR for a day and a half?? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Still going to take into the dealership......
 

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Re: Key FOB not functioning (Mash)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Mash</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Kelly, I had the same issue and mentioned it to my dealer and found out that the keyfob is warranteed the same as the car. 4year 50,000 miles. They replaced the whole unit under warranty because of the little metal triangle(when I had my factory alarm activated) Rick</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I asked him, but since I have aftermarket springs, he said they wouldn't cover it... something about changing the frequency of the vibration coming up the steering wheel increased the stress on the metal triangle causing it to fail...
 

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Re: Key FOB not functioning ("R" Kelly)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>"R" Kelly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I asked him, but since I have aftermarket springs, he said they wouldn't cover it... something about changing the frequency of the vibration coming up the steering wheel increased the stress on the metal triangle causing it to fail...</TD></TR></TABLE> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> If that is the case (and I hope you are kidding) Tell the guy to pull his head out of his a$$ so he can actually hear your question. Obviously he did not hear you right. Or just go to another dealer.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>"R" Kelly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a different problem with my key fobs, the metal triangle to hold it to a key chain has seperated itself on both. <p>Have you all experienced this, what did you do? Right now I have a twist tie holding it on, but damn that looks tacky. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>It happened to my wife's 2005 XC90 keys. At some point Volvo switched to these neat little swivels that don't break like those stupid triagles do <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> My 2006 R has the swivels.<p>VADIS doens't show a part number unfortunately <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> but you can see what it looks like, it's '7' in this pic:<p><IMG SRC="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/field172/keyremote.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Volvo of Misssissauga (my XC90 dealer) 'fixed' my wife's keys by putting on the swivels, they did it for free but I don't know if it was a warranty thing or if they just did it on their dime to keep us happy.<p>Good luck.<p>LTA<p>
 

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Re: Key FOB not functioning (caliS60R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>caliS60R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry for the delay in posting to this but I've been out....I tried the 5 key turn and "arm" trick a couple of times as suggested but it didn't seem to work. I decided that that I'd have to do it the old fashion way and take it into the dealer come next week. On the way back to my car this afternoon I hit the "un-arm" button and it now worked!?! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> Its been working ever since.....so maybe the "5 key turn" trick worked or was it that it went FUBAR for a day and a half?? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Still going to take into the dealership......</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Hi CaliS60R - It must have been a fluke since according to VADIS there is no such remote/key learning function in current Volvo cars.<p>I think if you can reproduce it at your dealer that's your best bet.<p>In case you want to know more: The antenna and receiver is in the UEM (Upper Electronic Module) which is integrated into the rearview mirror. The UEM receives the remote control's signals and sends them, via CAN, to the CEL. You might be able to check for loose connectors at the UEM but without alot of dissassembly I don't think you'll see too much.<p>LTA<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by LTA at 9:13 PM 7-30-2006</i>
 

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Re: Key FOB not functioning (Mash)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Mash</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In all of the sytems I have installed and had installed the <B>key</B> is the only part that needs to be reprogrammed. The alarm sytem has <B>rolling codes</B> therefor once the car is on an <B>open rolling code setting</B>(via the description above) the car is just waiting for an <B>open</B> code to be introduced by <B>any Volvo </B> remote you choose. Regardless of the remote systems serial #. Once the car is in an <B>open code status</B> and you press the arm button (you will see the car arm) it is now married to that remote (that is the <I>specail code you were refering to that actually changes every time you activate/deactivate the system</I>. That is how any remote alarm sytem works. Programs are for the keys and <B>open coding</B> is in the alarm. The coding is closed once a remote(s) are married to a specific vehicle. Barring the simple fact that there is not a blown fuse or other wiring issues. Which are very good suggestions. Might as well start simple and work your way down the line. I am just putting a few ideas out there for ouR fellow <I>SS</I>'er <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sounds just like how I add remotes to my Craftsman garage door opener but NOT how you do it for current Volvo's <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> I think you've said you have an aftermarket alarm in your car but I think CaliS60R is all stock so bottom line is VADIS/VIDA is the only way to do it (unless the RICA or BSR guys also know how to get into the CEL, etc via CAN and the diag port).<p>Keep smilin' <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>LTA<br>
 

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Re: Key FOB not functioning (Mash)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Mash</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> If that is the case (and I hope you are kidding) Tell the guy to pull his head out of his a$$ so he can actually hear your question. Obviously he did not hear you right. Or just go to another dealer.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Of course he is kidding.
 
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