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OK... calling all parents:<P>We are expecting our first child in July. My wife and I bought our new Volvo with the expectation of using this GREAT new ISOFIX system. Darell our moderator tells me that Volvo does not offer the ISOFIX infant or car seat. I have confirmed with my dealer and with VCNA that this is true. <P>BTW:<BR>ISOFIX, also known as LATCH system (Lower Anchors and Tethers for Children) is intended to improve the attachment of car seats in vehicles. Under a new federal regulation, lower attachment hardware will be required on all vehicles and child restraints manufactured on or after September 1, 2002. <P>My questions are:<P>1) Where do I find an ISOFIX carseat before July?<P>2) What would be your recommendations as far as Non-ISOFIX infant/baby carseats? Britax, Century, Evenflo, Graco, Fisher Price, etc.<P>3) Are the popular "Removable Systems" as safe as fixed units? <P>Shopping for carseats is more stressful than shopping for cars. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/confused.gif"><P>Thanks for any advice & help,<BR>Rob<P><BR><P>
 

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Rob,<P>I'm not yet a parent but I'm planning on getting a Volvo wagon because of the ISOFIX system. My information is that there are two ISOFIX seats on the market in the US. A Fisher-Price 'Safe-Embrace' and a model by Costco. This information I sourced from a car seat discussion group - <A HREF="http://www.babyexpressstores.com/wwwboard02/wwwboard02.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.babyexpressstores.com/wwwboard02/wwwboard02.html</A> <P>Neither unit is part of a combo-system. The discussion group goes over some of the pros and cons of these systems. Since I'm an expectant dad I can't comment on which system is better. It's likely a personal choice thing.<P>good luck and let us know what you find out. I'm seen this question before on a message board.<BR>
 

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the fisher price ISOFIX seat works well in Volvos. I don't have one but i have seen it in a friend's car. btw, i have a non-ISO Britax car seat and that thing is like an astronaut's chair! very comfortable looking and secures firmly. Don't forget that all volvos now come with the ELR seat belt feature (see your owner's manual) that securely locks the seat belt in place with the car seat.
 

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Hey Rob....getting closer every day, huh?<P>I'm afraid you're gonna have to bite the bullet on the infant seat, and hope there will be something available with LATCH when he/she outgrows the first seat.<P>I personally prefer the Century infant seat, and I bought the quick-release base for it. You strap the base in, and just click the seat onto it. That seat then also clicks onto our Combi stroller, so I've made my own "system" out of the best parts from various companies. I never did find a complete system from any one manufacturer that met all my needs. (Combi strollers rule!)<P>You can go straight for the Britax Roundabout (which will be our second seat when Kyra outgrows the infant seat....hoping they will release the LATCH version very soon), but you'll be happier having an actual infant seat first. Once the baby is asleep, it's great to just pull the whole seat out and carry her with you, or click her onto the stroller. With the convertible seats you have to unbuckle them and haul them out of there each time. It's also nice if it's hot or cold or raining to be able to buckle them into the seat in the comfort of your home (or wherever) before plunking them into the locking base and taking off. Kneeling in the back seat to strap them in gets old in a hurry.<P>Have I rambled on enough, or would you like more? <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"> Now's the time to pick my brain on this stuff while it's fresh in my head...<P>- Kyra's daddy<BR> <IMG SRC="http://darelldd.com/misc/kyrahat.jpg"> <P>
 

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Darell,<P>That is a cute little one ya have there! Looks like she is ready for spring and a picnic!<P>-Drew
 

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Thanks...I couldn't help myself - I think she's pretty damn cute myself. The really good news is that she looks like her mom <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"> (hmmm. You could take that in several ways, and both of them would be correct).<P>The worst thing you could do at this point is ask for more pictures (which I notice that you did <I>not</I>)....A new baby, a digital camera and a BIG hard drive are a lethal combination, if you know what I mean <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/wink.gif"><P>- Darell<p>[This message has been edited by darell (edited 03-15-2001).]
 

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I suppose I should post this here too, just on the off chance that not EVERYBODY follows 20 forums a day (Hmmm. that was supposed to be a stab at Rob, but I think it back-fired). This is the response from the CEO of Britax when I asked about the continuing delays of the Roundabout with the LATCH system. This is pasted verbatim:<P>Hello Mr. Dickey,<BR>We will be starting to build our forward-facing seat with ISOFIT/LATCH this <BR>month. It will be called the "Expressway" and will be based on the Freeway <BR>Plus (20 to 40 lbs.). We made some adjustments to the Freeway Plus to <BR>bring down the cost so the Expressway with ISOFIT connectors can retail <BR>close to the Freeway Plus. The Roundabout has passed our government tests <BR>with the ISOFIT but we are developing a system for easier routing <BR>rear-facing. We want to avoid mis-routing possibilities.<BR>The ISOFIT connectors are our own Britax development and had to be started <BR>from scratch using principles known from our buckle designs of the <BR>past. The biggest delay was caused because when using the adult seat belts <BR>in the vehicle, their strength is huge. The US gov't test for LATCH <BR>anchors in vehicles has been the subject of great controversy and we have <BR>found that our LATCH connectors must be far stronger than the gov't test <BR>would require. Some vehicles on the road have very severe crash pulses, <BR>plus as with some vehicles we expect consumers will use the 2 inner anchors <BR>that are far wider than the gov't standard specifies. The gov't standard <BR>specifies 280 mm spacing and the 2 center inner anchors can be 500 mm <BR>apart. This wide spacing is (according to the gov't standard) too wide and <BR>not "legal" for LATCH use, but we know consumers will use it to position <BR>the childseat in the center rear. This very wide spacing, we found, can <BR>place extremely high twisting loads on the LATCH connectors and we had to <BR>make design changes to accommodate the higher loads. If we only designed <BR>for the gov't test we would have had the system out 6 months ago.<BR>We have been working closely with vehicle manufacturers to get the system <BR>tested in real vehicles with full scale crashes. Fortunately, the <BR>forward-facing ISOFIT is fine, but unfortunately, rear-facing is far more <BR>challenging.<BR>When your daughter turns 1 year the Expressway will be fine, but perhaps <BR>she will outgrow the infant before turning 1 year old.<BR>As you know, we're not good at predicting release times, but we're very <BR>close to having other new products finished this month and the Roundabout <BR>ISOFIT will get top priority soon. If you look at our website <A HREF="http://www.childseat.com" TARGET=_blank>www.childseat.com</A> you will see that we have many new products imminent plus a Travel system will be available by spring.<P>My apologies for all the delays.<BR>Kind Regards,<BR>Tom Baloga<BR><p>[This message has been edited by darell (edited 03-15-2001).]
 

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I have but one question! Who is the one responsible for the names of all the different types of seats; Expressway, Freeway, Freeway Plus, Roundabout, Advantage, King, Super Elite, Star Rise Comfy, Roadster... <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif"> Oh, the humanity! <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/biggrin.gif"><P>-Drew<p>[This message has been edited by InDy (edited 03-15-2001).]
 

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Personally, I can't wait to tell my kid to "shut up, and go play in the Freeway!"<P> <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P>- Darell<p>[This message has been edited by darell (edited 03-15-2001).]
 

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I'd feel more comfortable getting one of the Britax seats if the guy writing new how to spell ISOFIX (not isofit). <P>ha ha only kidding
 

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Thanks everybody for all the great feedback.<P>I've been gone a few days, but will diligently go through all the info in your posts over the next few days.<P>Be back with more questions I'm sure after my wife and I take a few trips to the baby stores!<P>BTW: I noticed no ISOFIX attachment for the center of the rear seat? Wouldn't this be the safest place to install, to guard against side impact?<P>Thanks again,<BR>Rob<P><BR>
 

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Volvo parts has the Isofix seats in the catalog and it is also in the parts computer. No release date is set yet. I have customers asking all the time. Typical Volvo <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/wink.gif">. <P>
 

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These are Volvo ISOFIX baby seats right, with lower attachment points?<P> <IMG SRC="http://prpictures.vcc.volvo.se/lowres/P00-5382.jpg"> <P>Why is this Volvo carseat in the front? I don't get it! <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif"><P> <IMG SRC="http://prpictures.vcc.volvo.se/lowres/P00-5381.jpg"> <P>-Drew<BR>
 

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And why isn't the lady looking where she's going?<P>Good point about the front-mounted infant seat. What's up with that? Can the airbags be turned off for the passenger? Yikes.<P><BR>- Darell<BR>
 

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So, I am sure you all have been hearing about all the news on Cosco. They just got the biggest fine ever supposedly. Strollers collapsing, and babies getting stuck in their cribs? Scary stuff...<P>-Drew
 

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Indy,<P>could you elaborate, I hadn't heard of this. I was thinking of getting their ISOFIX seat in a month. I'm going to have to mail/web order an ISOFIX seat since I can't find one here in Canada.<P>thx
 

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dghamilt,<P>I am not really sure if it has anything to do with the ISOFIX seat or not, but this is what happened...<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><BR>Consumer Correspondent Greg Hunter said Cosco and Safety 1st, both owned by Dorel Industries, agreed to pay the record fines to settle charges that they failed to properly report product defects. He told Good Morning America that the defects caused serious injuries and deaths to children. <P>Children's product maker Cosco Inc. agreed to pay a $1.3 million fine to settle charges that it failed to tell federal regulators about defects that caused serious injuries and deaths to children. <P>The CPSC fined $450,000 against Safety 1st Inc., for withholding information about defects on two of their recalled products. <P>Among the allegations in the Cosco complaint, the CPSC said the company was aware of 24 consumer complaints of infants trapped in metal cribs over a two-year period before an 8-month-old child died of asphyxiation in June 1997. <P>In a company statement, Cosco and Safety 1st, denied wrongdoing or liability in the agreement with the CPSC. "Cosco and Safety 1st were entering into the agreement for settlement purposes only, to avoid incurring additional legal costs and to bring closure to this matter," the company said in a statement.<P><B>Products Recalled</B><P><B>Cosco Recalls</B><P>Option 5 High Chairs <BR>Arrival and Turnabout Car Seats and Carriers <BR>Two-Way Tandem Strollers <BR>Various full size baby cribs <BR>Bungee Baby Jumpers <P><B>Safety 1st Recalls</B><P>Wipe Warmer <BR>Mobile 4 Wheelin' Walker <P><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>-Drew
 
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