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Went to finally remove the winter tires yesterday and the installer broke a locking lug nut. Actually broke two. The car is now at the dealer trying to amputate the lug so the wheel can be removed. It spent all day there today and they were successful with one. (They had to order a special tool to remove them, but that tool also broke.)<p>They are going to have to chisel off the lug, while taking extreme caution not to damage the wheel. <p>Did anyone ever experience a predicament as this? <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Is my wheel now permanently affixed? (VermontR)

wow, glad I chose not to install the locking lugs with my OZs.<p>Put one on and it scratched the hell out of my wheel, so skipped installing the next one and removed the first one next time I was at the auto skills center.<p>Sorry for your predicament... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Is my wheel now permanently affixed? (VermontR)

I once... uh twice lost the key to my lock nut. I got it out using a 12 point socket that was one size smaller than the one that fits over the nut. I carefully hammered it in until it fit snug and tight. The following lock nuts were easier because the socket had the idention from the first one. That's way back in the days and I'm not sure what I damaged by doing it that way. <p>Just my 2c.
 

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Re: Is my wheel now permanently affixed? (volvoNB)

Ok, I can relate - SAME thing happened to me. I brought my car in and they broke the key trying to get the lug off. They ordered another one and broke that too (In fairness they were as frustrated as I was). These were NOT put on too tight - I did it myself with a high quality torque wrench to spec.<p>What they finally ended up doing was carefully welding a nut onto the locked lug nut. Not elegant but it worked. Ruined one wheel but the others came off ok. They (Volvo of Danbury) were great through the whole experience - highly recommend them.<p>I no longer have locking lugs on my R. I think the floating head design volvo uses looks good but not strong enough.<p>Good luck!
 

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Re: Is my wheel now permanently affixed? (Stan the "R" Man)

Sorry to hear that. I also had the head shear off. See my post of the saga at <A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=56058" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=56058</A>. Luckily, the Volvo dealership that was the last to put the lugs on was also the one I was going to the next day anyway. They did have to ruin the rim to remove the lug, but then replaced it since they were the ones that had last installed the locking nuts. I know that Yannis disagrees with me, but I still believe that these locking lugs are not designed quite right and installing them is a bigger risk than the risk of a stolen wheel. Besides, I think you could get your insurance to cover a stolen wheel, no? But the cost of replacing a ruined rim after removing a broken lug will go to you or your friendly neighborhood installer.<br>The problem with removing a broken locking lug is that depending on where it breaks, there is absolutely nothing to gain a grip on, as was the case with mine. The dealer said they literally blow-torched the lug to melt it enough to pull the rim off over it!<br>Good luck<p>Albert
 

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Re: Is my wheel now permanently affixed? (adalcanto)

Lock nuts are bad news in general, VOLVO's seem to breaking like flies and should be avoised at ALL costs
 

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Re: Is my wheel now permanently affixed? (Stan the "R" Man)

I will not reinstall the locking lugs again. Once they finally extrat the wheel, will replace with the regular ones. At this point the tire store is paying for the repair, but kinda surprised, that they could not have removed it and referred it the Volvo dealer. <p>I have not seen the damage to the wheel yet, but might actually be cheaper to ruin the wheel and replace than the hours it takes to extract. <p>Hopefully will end the saga on Monday, as I need to drive my "R" on the summer tires, much more enjoyable.
 

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I always advise people NOT to use the Volvo locking lug bolts.<p>Same thing happened to me twice on my 850 with the expen$ive 18" Triton wheels. On both occasions, the lock 'key' fell apart like plastic. The dealership wanted to chisel them out, but could not guarantee my wheels would be in usable condition (remember the Tritons are close to $600 a piece).<p>Volvo dealerships have access to a Master set of keys, but of the 8 dealerships I visited in New England, none of them had it in their shop, and none of them wanted to order it (even with me providing them with a <i>secret</i> part number).<p>If a thief wants my wheels, he can have them. That's what insurance is for.
 

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Re: (George @ ViVA)

YES!!!! this happened to me. the dealer etc couldn't remove it. so the ONLY option was to drill it out. I'll explain the procedure. centerpunch the nut/locknut. be center or wheel damage may/ most likely occur, keep in mind, even if on center damage is still possible but a lot less likely if you get it exact. then you step drill though the nut and stud, do this until there is nothing left. If you do this without getting to the wheel, then you were center and straight, if the wheels has dings , new slots etc , then you were off a bit. good luck. I've done this twice, got lucky once.
 

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Why would you need locking lugnuts in Burlington? I would never even think of them here near Denver -- wheel theft just isn't that common and its covered by insurance. Maybe in NYC or LA.
 

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Re: (jackf)

The other thing to remember is that most thieves wouldn't want Volvo wheels as compared to others since the bolt pattern (5 X 108) I believe is unique to Volvo, whereas wheels with other bolt patterns fit a wider range of vehicles and are thus easier to re-sell.
 
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