is my valentine 1 obsolete?
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Hmm.......<p>Does your ticket indicate radar was used? If NOT, then your V1 didn't have a reason to alert you.<p>If you flew by the officer, or were traveling at a noticbly higher speed than the flow of traffic, an officer may not need to use radar to cite you.<p>This question is probably best asked, read about on a radar forum. Such as...radardetectors.net
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+1 to what china said but the great thing about the V1 is that it is upgradeable:<p><A HREF="http://www.valentine1.com/upgrades/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.valentine1.com/upgrades/</A><p>Do you have the current software?<p>Also, check to ensure that your V1 hasn't been reprogrammed and certain bands turned off:<p><A HREF="http://www.valentine1.com/lab/MikesLabRpt3.asp" TARGET="_blank">http://www.valentine1.com/lab/MikesLabRpt3.asp</A><p>Good luck!<p>
+1 to what china said but the great thing about the V1 is that it is upgradeable:<p><A HREF="http://www.valentine1.com/upgrades/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.valentine1.com/upgrades/</A><p>Do you have the current software?<p>Also, check to ensure that your V1 hasn't been reprogrammed and certain bands turned off:<p><A HREF="http://www.valentine1.com/lab/MikesLabRpt3.asp" TARGET="_blank">http://www.valentine1.com/lab/MikesLabRpt3.asp</A><p>Good luck!<p>
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In New York they can cite you without radar or laser only they won't win in court. Also when and if you get pulled over next time ask to see the device used to catch you, by law they have to let you see it and see the speed they clocked you at. Good luck with those tickets and welcome to my world- get a good lawyer!
In New York they can cite you without radar or laser only they won't win in court. Also when and if you get pulled over next time ask to see the device used to catch you, by law they have to let you see it and see the speed they clocked you at. Good luck with those tickets and welcome to my world- get a good lawyer!
Re: is my valentine 1 obsolete? (j0sie27)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>j0sie27</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive gotten a handful of tickets in the last few months in my other car and my V1 hasn't made a peep. dothe police have some sort of new technology?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>LOL, funny your posting this, I just called Valentine 1 the other day and was asking them if they have any upgrades for new radar. They said they have this new technology called POP Protection. I asked the lady where it is used the most, she said NEW YORK. . . apparently NY has some new radar detector that its so fast your detector won't get it in time before its too late . . . maybe time to upgrade your software ?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>j0sie27</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive gotten a handful of tickets in the last few months in my other car and my V1 hasn't made a peep. dothe police have some sort of new technology?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>LOL, funny your posting this, I just called Valentine 1 the other day and was asking them if they have any upgrades for new radar. They said they have this new technology called POP Protection. I asked the lady where it is used the most, she said NEW YORK. . . apparently NY has some new radar detector that its so fast your detector won't get it in time before its too late . . . maybe time to upgrade your software ?
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Re: is my valentine 1 obsolete? (TurboR850)
The way I understand POP is that it's a sort of "pre-reading" of your speed, and you have seconds to slow down before they actually catch you speeding. POP is avoidable if your detector can pick it up. I have an Escort 8500 x50 with POP (funny thing is it comes disabled from the factory, you have to turn it on), and have been hit by it a few times. It's a VERY quick and loud braaap, resulting in me slowing down instantly. Sure enough, there's the u-know-what sitting in the median with his radar trained in my direction. It is not the same as laser. If you get hit with laser, you're caught.<p>The V1 is old technology though, and I'm wondering how software upgrades will continue to keep it current if new detection methods need better or different hardware.
The way I understand POP is that it's a sort of "pre-reading" of your speed, and you have seconds to slow down before they actually catch you speeding. POP is avoidable if your detector can pick it up. I have an Escort 8500 x50 with POP (funny thing is it comes disabled from the factory, you have to turn it on), and have been hit by it a few times. It's a VERY quick and loud braaap, resulting in me slowing down instantly. Sure enough, there's the u-know-what sitting in the median with his radar trained in my direction. It is not the same as laser. If you get hit with laser, you're caught.<p>The V1 is old technology though, and I'm wondering how software upgrades will continue to keep it current if new detection methods need better or different hardware.
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Re: is my valentine 1 obsolete? (T5 for Life)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>T5 for Life</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>The V1 is old technology though, and I'm wondering how software upgrades will continue to keep it current if new detection methods need better or different hardware.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>What is old about it? I am curious to understand what is out there that's not covered by their upgrades. <p>And their "upgrades" really aren't an upgrade at all, to be honest...it's a partial exchange for a newer unit.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>T5 for Life</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>The V1 is old technology though, and I'm wondering how software upgrades will continue to keep it current if new detection methods need better or different hardware.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>What is old about it? I am curious to understand what is out there that's not covered by their upgrades. <p>And their "upgrades" really aren't an upgrade at all, to be honest...it's a partial exchange for a newer unit.
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Re: is my valentine 1 obsolete? (Needsdecaf)
Not sure it has the best anti detector detector anymore
Not sure it has the best anti detector detector anymore
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Re: is my valentine 1 obsolete? (Needsdecaf)
Easy....easy....didn't mean to insult you.<p>But the unit was designed a looooong time ago by radar detector standards. And I highly doubt the software upgrade is a "partial exchange for a newer unit" unless they are rebuilding the internals of it along with the software update.
Easy....easy....didn't mean to insult you.<p>But the unit was designed a looooong time ago by radar detector standards. And I highly doubt the software upgrade is a "partial exchange for a newer unit" unless they are rebuilding the internals of it along with the software update.
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Re: is my valentine 1 obsolete? (T5 for Life)
I am not a big fan of V1 it just makes too many bogies and reminds me of the <br>dung of a viral she monkey. The new Passport with GPS is very nice
I am not a big fan of V1 it just makes too many bogies and reminds me of the <br>dung of a viral she monkey. The new Passport with GPS is very nice
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Re: is my valentine 1 obsolete? (T5 for Life)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>T5 for Life</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Easy....easy....didn't mean to insult you.<p>But the unit was designed a looooong time ago by radar detector standards. And I highly doubt the software upgrade is a "partial exchange for a newer unit" unless they are rebuilding the internals of it along with the software update.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I was not insulted at all, don't read into words on the internet. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> I have not "kept up with the times" that well on detector technology since I bought my V1 10 years ago, and wanted to see what I was missing out on. Last I heard POP was the rage. <p>You (and others) have incorrectly termed the V1 upgrade as a "software upgrade". It is not a software upgrade, it is an upgrade as I mentioned above. Essentially you get a re-built unit. It's not really a partial exchange on a newer unit, I shouldn't have classified it as that, as I think the chassis you get back is the same (the serial number stays the same IIRC) but it is a real upgrade including any hardware if needed. <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Valentine 1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We'll Upgrade Your Earlier Model:<br>Since 1994, whenever we've made a performance breakthrough, we've offered it to our past customers in the form of an upgrade. The price varies, depending on the parts required. Included is a one-year warranty, same as new.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>My friend did this to his. His old unit did not have Laser and he got it upgraded to one that did. That included a whole new slew of parts...receivers, etc, including a new external top case (for the rear antenna, I think that's why I thought it was a partial exchange). <p>This can be almost as expensive as buying a new one, depending on how old your unit is. And in some cases, it's probably more expensive than buying a new competitor's unit. But I'll never own a detector without the arrows and counters again. For me, even if it's the same or even not as great as some other unit's coverage (although I believe it still is), that feature alone sells it for me.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>T5 for Life</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Easy....easy....didn't mean to insult you.<p>But the unit was designed a looooong time ago by radar detector standards. And I highly doubt the software upgrade is a "partial exchange for a newer unit" unless they are rebuilding the internals of it along with the software update.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I was not insulted at all, don't read into words on the internet. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> I have not "kept up with the times" that well on detector technology since I bought my V1 10 years ago, and wanted to see what I was missing out on. Last I heard POP was the rage. <p>You (and others) have incorrectly termed the V1 upgrade as a "software upgrade". It is not a software upgrade, it is an upgrade as I mentioned above. Essentially you get a re-built unit. It's not really a partial exchange on a newer unit, I shouldn't have classified it as that, as I think the chassis you get back is the same (the serial number stays the same IIRC) but it is a real upgrade including any hardware if needed. <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Valentine 1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We'll Upgrade Your Earlier Model:<br>Since 1994, whenever we've made a performance breakthrough, we've offered it to our past customers in the form of an upgrade. The price varies, depending on the parts required. Included is a one-year warranty, same as new.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>My friend did this to his. His old unit did not have Laser and he got it upgraded to one that did. That included a whole new slew of parts...receivers, etc, including a new external top case (for the rear antenna, I think that's why I thought it was a partial exchange). <p>This can be almost as expensive as buying a new one, depending on how old your unit is. And in some cases, it's probably more expensive than buying a new competitor's unit. But I'll never own a detector without the arrows and counters again. For me, even if it's the same or even not as great as some other unit's coverage (although I believe it still is), that feature alone sells it for me.
Re: is my valentine 1 obsolete? (Needsdecaf)
My Escort's laser is going off all the time now with those newfangled LED tail lights and collision radar thingamajingies. Completely useless. I have never seen cops using anything else but Ka-band around here, and the Escort picks it up half a mile ahead.
My Escort's laser is going off all the time now with those newfangled LED tail lights and collision radar thingamajingies. Completely useless. I have never seen cops using anything else but Ka-band around here, and the Escort picks it up half a mile ahead.
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Re: is my valentine 1 obsolete? (Mika)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Mika</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My Escort's laser is going off all the time now with those newfangled LED tail lights and collision radar thingamajingies. Completely useless. I have never seen cops using anything else but Ka-band around here, and the Escort picks it up half a mile ahead.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>precisely for this reason, I keep my laser disabled unless I am going into a known Laser area. You are pretty much screwed if you get tagged with LIDAR anyway, but there is always a chance. <p>But yea, with so many Infiniti cruise controls and Trail Blazer taillights running around, I got sick of hearing my laser going off all the time. <p><br>That, and if you have the nav screen up at night, it'll set off the laser alert on a V1. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Mika</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My Escort's laser is going off all the time now with those newfangled LED tail lights and collision radar thingamajingies. Completely useless. I have never seen cops using anything else but Ka-band around here, and the Escort picks it up half a mile ahead.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>precisely for this reason, I keep my laser disabled unless I am going into a known Laser area. You are pretty much screwed if you get tagged with LIDAR anyway, but there is always a chance. <p>But yea, with so many Infiniti cruise controls and Trail Blazer taillights running around, I got sick of hearing my laser going off all the time. <p><br>That, and if you have the nav screen up at night, it'll set off the laser alert on a V1. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
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Re: is my valentine 1 obsolete? (Needsdecaf)
I have had my V1 for about 3 years now and i havent had any problems with it. It worked well for me when I drove the R from denver to sacramento( I made sure to pack it in my carryon) .. i will check to see if there are any updates, good thread tho!
I have had my V1 for about 3 years now and i havent had any problems with it. It worked well for me when I drove the R from denver to sacramento( I made sure to pack it in my carryon) .. i will check to see if there are any updates, good thread tho!
Re: is my valentine 1 obsolete? (j0sie27)
Although tempted to use a different detector with the GPS function so I can lock-out known false alerts, the arrows on the V1 (and the bogey counter to a lesser extent) are the main reason I stick with it. The arrows are truly invaluable IMHO <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Now a V1 with GPS features; that would be interesting <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
Although tempted to use a different detector with the GPS function so I can lock-out known false alerts, the arrows on the V1 (and the bogey counter to a lesser extent) are the main reason I stick with it. The arrows are truly invaluable IMHO <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Now a V1 with GPS features; that would be interesting <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
I have the bel gx 65 with gps. Nice machine. Not sure how, but it saved me from laser two nights ago. I was doing 87, the laser sensor went crazy, I slammed on the brakes, and the cop didn't move. I'm puzzled by this. There was no one in front of me, so I didn't get a signal from another car being shot.<br>I see two options. 1) he tagged me and didn't care that I was doing 87 or 2) My detector saved me. I'll never know the truth, but luckily i didn't get another $385 ticket.
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Re: is my valentine 1 obsolete? (bb vign)
I think the arrows are overrated. There are things called mirrors and situational awareness. If my Passport 8500 x50 goes off, i slow down and check my mirrors to see where or what it was. Hell, I'm looking in the mirrors or down the road enough to see the bogey before it tags me, at least in a residential area.<p>And I've never had a false LIDAR alert from taillights or distance detection systems. I'm just saying...
I think the arrows are overrated. There are things called mirrors and situational awareness. If my Passport 8500 x50 goes off, i slow down and check my mirrors to see where or what it was. Hell, I'm looking in the mirrors or down the road enough to see the bogey before it tags me, at least in a residential area.<p>And I've never had a false LIDAR alert from taillights or distance detection systems. I'm just saying...
I have the Passport with GPS, works great. I have thought about buying the Valentine for my car as my wife uses the Passport sometimes but really see no reason to buy the Valentine over the Passport. I am surprised Valentine hasn't updated theirs with GPS. It isn't that big of a deal I guess but it is nice on long drives where there are known consistent speed traps. We drive from Houston to Nashville every year and I marked the usual speed traps with the GPS, one huge one just East of Memphis on I-40 and sure enough same spot last year but I had the area marked.
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