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i see there are two options for the sway bars on the ipd website im tight on money because of college so im just wondering would it be worth it to just buy the rear one or should i gather money and just get the whole kit with both bars? would the rear one only make a difference? thanks <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: IPD sb ques. (punkdevil)

Rear alone is probably better for the street<br>This belongs in the ipd forum
 

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Re: IPD sb ques. (punkdevil)

you've got a tremendous car that many guys twice your age will envy, if money is tight why bother? Sway bars don't make a night and day difference. If you are burning to throw more money at the car, I say go for an ECU upgrade.
 

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Re: IPD sb ques. (kenschel)

I have to, respectfully, disagree. The R's quick enough . . . an extra 30 or so hp doens't make THAT big of a difference. <p>Adding the sway bars made a HUGE, MONUMENTAL difference in how the R handles. Also drastically improves feedback. Quite frankly, a stock R's handling SUCKS compared to an R with the track spec sway bars. <p>If my wife limited me to only 1000 on upgrades for my R, I would do springs and sways HANDS DOWN, and WAY before an ECU upgrade.<p>That being said, this is all subjective. I would rather have a slower car that handles better than vice versa. We all have differnet priorities, so take my advice with a grain of salt. Either way YOU go (sways or ECU), its a positive improvement in the vehicle.
 

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Re: IPD sb ques. (R Salesman)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>R Salesman</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have to, respectfully, disagree. The R's quick enough . . . an extra 30 or so hp doens't make THAT big of a difference. <p>Adding the sway bars made a HUGE, MONUMENTAL difference in how the R handles. Also drastically improves feedback. Quite frankly, a stock R's handling SUCKS compared to an R with the track spec sway bars. <p>If my wife limited me to only 1000 on upgrades for my R, I would do springs and sways HANDS DOWN, and WAY before an ECU upgrade.<p>That being said, this is all subjective. I would rather have a slower car that handles better than vice versa. We all have differnet priorities, so take my advice with a grain of salt. Either way YOU go (sways or ECU), its a positive improvement in the vehicle.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I have the IPD rear sway (but not the front) and a notice a little difference but not a big one. Does it take both to really matter? I'm not complaining, mind you, it was $350 installed, which is not bad.
 

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Re: IPD sb ques. (kenschel)

Well, I did springs AND track-spec sways (sway bars for both front and rear) at the same time. So to a degree, I'm sure that part of the handling improvement can be directly attributed to the eibachs.<p>In my case, the handling difference between my car and a stock R is night and day. Not even close in comparison.<p>So I can't really speak to just the rear bar on the R. However, we've installed the sway bar kit on an XC90 (front and rear), and again, the handling difference was night and day. As a technician, it is amazing that just changing two parts out can make THAT much of a difference.<p>So based on the experience I've had, I would have to say that the track-spec (two bars) would provide the greatest handling improvement when compared to a rear-only upgrade.<p>Keep in mind that when you choose the neutral balance kit (rear only), the rear bar is 22mm. When you go with the track spec, the bars are 25mm front AND rear.
 

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Re: IPD sb ques. (R Salesman)

Lee, how stiff is your ride now? Is the confort still there or does it feel like driving a hard edged stiff suspension car? (BMW Z4 comes to mind).
 

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Re: IPD sb ques. (Jayam)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Jayam</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lee, how stiff is your ride now? Is the confort still there or does it feel like driving a hard edged stiff suspension car? (BMW Z4 comes to mind).</TD></TR></TABLE><p>COMFORT = marginally stiffer than stock. It feels in between stock comfort and stock sport. The big advantage, though, is that it no longer feels "floaty," or disconnected from the road. Side-step is completely gone, and the vehicle traverses bumps with much greater precision and predictability. I am actually not scared to make an emergency lane change, or take a quick turn in comfort. In a stock R, I wouldn't even <I>think</I> of making an emergency lane change in comfort . . . in my opinion, it would be unsafe.<p>SPORT = again, marginally stiffer than stock, but less of a difference than comfort. Bump absorption is pretty much the same, so ride quality is not compromised at all. Along with the characteristics aforementioned, the vehicle feels like a sports car, <I>like it should.</I> It is much more plated, much more predictable, and SIGNIFICANTLY more responsive. Turn-in is greatly enhanced, and controllability vastly improved.<p>ADVANCED = it's a completely different car. Stock advanced is very jittery, bumpy, unrefined, and jolting. With my setup, the vehicle is actually more composed, "smoothed out," and WAY more communicative. Understeer? It doesn't even know the definition. Under throttle in a turn, the vehicle feels like it's RWD instead of FWD biased AWD. Body roll is minimized, but still exists when you're pushing the vehicle to the limit (this is something <I>desirable</I> because it allows you to properly load the tires to get the traction you need. In advanced, this car is one of the best handling street cars I've ever driven. <p>Overall, I couldn't be more pleased. The only thing I would like to do is add a TRUE strut tower brace to help improve initial turn-in feel. Other than that, the handling is superb.
 

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Re: IPD sb ques. (R Salesman)

R - Which springs did you install w/those bars??
 

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Re: IPD sb ques. (Short Circuit)

I went with the eibach springs.
 

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Re: IPD sb ques. (R Salesman)

"ADVANCED = it's a completely different car. Stock advanced is very jittery, bumpy, unrefined, and jolting. With my setup, the vehicle is actually more composed, "smoothed out," and WAY more communicative. Understeer? It doesn't even know the definition."<p>As R Salesman said, for some reason ANY lowered spring seems to smooth out advanced (Rev4) and makes all R's MUCH nicer to drive
 

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Re: IPD sb ques. (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As R Salesman said, for some reason ANY lowered spring seems to smooth out advanced (Rev4) and makes all R's MUCH nicer to drive</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'll bet one car payment it's because all the lowering springs out so far are stiffer than stock springs and take some of the work off 4C. That is, 4C is working <B> less</B>, which is a good thing.
 

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Re: IPD sb ques. (PhilUp)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PhilUp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'll bet one car payment it's because all the lowering springs out so far are stiffer than stock springs and take some of the work off 4C. That is, 4C is working <B> less</B>, which is a good thing. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>sounds on the mark to me
 
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