Yeah, turning radius on these cars is not great. I got used to it but would be nice if it can be improved.
I was hoping that it would be like the Volvo 240 but no such luck

 

I just get in my wife's XC90 and try doing a u-turn in that and then the S60 doesn't seem that bad anymore : )

 

Glad there are others that agree about the bad turning radius. I thought I might of just been imaging it, but it seems particularly bad by comparison to some other cars

 

TBH I've never had so much issue parking a car since I got the S60, car parks and on the kerb, I've never scraped wheels so much in my life. Visibility is below average imo. But I still love it because its bloody quick, has tremendous grip has a killer sound system and looks ace!

 

It's laughable watching me trying to back this thing into a parking space at the mall, and I have the camera, tilting mirrors and parking sensors. Try as I might, the damn thing is almost always crooked. But when I'm in my 2017 Murano, which has cameras, but no sensors, I nail it in the middle on the first try 90% of the time. When it's time to hit the open road however, still enjoy driving the Volvo!

 

I drive a 2018 S60 RD Platinum with 19” tires and for a while I thought it was just me having a hard time parking. I have come to the same conclusion as everyone else, this car has a really poor turn radius but I forget about it when I experience how quick it is. Visibility while backing is not very good and I have so far avoided scraping my rims.


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Not sure why you day visibility while backing is not good. I think it's fine.
Do you tilt the mirrors while parallel parking? That helps avoid scraping the wheels.

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Interesting. I never once had an issue with parking this car. With dipped mirrors, backup camera and park sensors parking couldn't easier, well the mirrors could move faster. I 3-point turn in my small street (street is so narrow parking is only allowed on one side) all the time with no issues. Maybe I just got use to it?

 

No, the mirrors move down and then in? Which changes the angle of direction and I'm stuffed after that. So I turned that function off.

 

I think this feature is pretty useless unless triggered manually. I didn't realize that until recently that it wasn't totally useless for the same reason you mention. The tilted mirrors seem only useful for parallel parking as it gives you a view specifically of the rear wheels.

In any case, I haven't had much parking parking trouble, just noticed that it has a wide turning radius

 

I personally love the tilting mirror function and find it very useful. I have it on by default for the right side and trigger it manually for the driver side.
Yes, it takes a little longer than I would like but I got used to it. Other cars like the BMW that move faster only tilt and do not point in.
To each his own I suppose

 

With the parking sensors, side mirrors, and parking sensors yes it makes parking easier but visibility if you look over your shoulder is not very good. I never rely 100% on sensors preferring to check over my shoulder and utilize the backup camera as well. My previous Honda EX had a larger backup camera and shorter turn radius and I could park it much easier than my S60.


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With the parking sensors, side mirrors, and parking sensors yes it makes parking easier but visibility if you look over your shoulder is not very good. I never rely 100% on sensors preferring to check over my shoulder and utilize the backup camera as well. My previous Honda EX had a larger backup camera and shorter turn radius and I could park it much easier than my S60.

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I backup into a parking spot every day and rely on the side mirrors to see the lines and guide me (passenger being tilted). I always go in straight. No camera and no sensors.
I have the trunk lip spoiler which helps me see the end of the car when I turn back and look. maybe you want to get one of those. It's more than just looks.

 

I have been relying more on the backup camera when backing but I’ll try using the side mirrors more to see if that works better. That won’t help that won’t help the long turn radius, does anybody know if that is just typical with awd cars? My wife drives a Lexus GS 350 and she says her car has a wide turn radius too. We’re comparing to the Honda Accord’s we used to drive.


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I have been relying more on the backup camera when backing but I'll try using the side mirrors more to see if that works better. That won't help that won't help the long turn radius, does anybody know if that is just typical with awd cars? My wife drives a Lexus GS 350 and she says her car has a wide turn radius too. We're comparing to the Honda Accord's we used to drive.

It's more to do with the larger wheels I think. The larger the overall wheel/tire (both diameter and width) the more clearance is necessary for a given steering angle.

AWD may also take up a bit more space under the hood and reduce available clearance too, but I think the main culprits are wider tires and larger wheels.

 

Mine is a FWD and still has a big radius. I don't think it's a FWD vs AWD thing.
My wife's 2011 328 AWD has a tighter radius.

 

My car came stock with 235/40/R19 rims


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My car came stock with 235/40/R19 rims

I didn't mean that the issue was larger than stock wheels. I meant that the issue is that newer cars are using larger wheels than older cars did, which means that even if newer cars have the same amount of clearance, the larger wheels they they fit these days results in less available steering angle even though the amount of room is the same.

For example the stock 235/40 R19 tires for your car need a lot more room to achieve the same steering angle as the stock 205/55 R16 tires on my old S70. One of the tradeoffs of the larger wheels and tires that cars come with today is that even if there's the same amount of space as always, the larger wheels can't be turned as far in that same space.

 

I thought the issue was the steering rack which only allowed for a max distance due to the massive engine they had to squeeze in T5 and T6. So it would be a problem on all P3 models regardless of wheels or engine. Its a packaging issue.

I had the same problem in my maxima which had the v6 in the front. I have learn to deal with it. We are just lucky the the gear lever is a straight down version so you can shave .3s off of your 3 point turn time.

 

The P80 models had the same 5 cylinder engine and if I recall correctly the 3.0 T6 with transaxle was only a couple millimeters longer than the 5 cylinder with transaxle. I don't think the engine and transmission are as limiting as everyone seems to think.

 

Ah, okay got it, thanks for taking the time to explain that.


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My 2014 S60 has 17" wheels on it and the turning radius is noticeably worse than my old 2004 Saab that also had 17" wheels on it.

 

Surely the poor turning circle is due to the Transverse engine configuration?

 

^^^^^

I miss my turning radius too. It’s just one compromise, I’m fortunate enough that it’s not a big deal for me.

 

It just means people get to have a longer look at the sweet ride that's about to blast them into oblivion!

 

Speaking as someone who lived with a P2 S60R for six years, I have no issues with the turning radius in the P3 S60. Maybe the R made me more desensitized, but the P3 turning radius is markedly tighter than on the P2.

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thezones60, ha ha ha, you are so right. RD Volvo’s just leave a trail of dust behind and that is the compromise for the poor turn radius. I only use the power when I need it but when I do, blast off.


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