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Which gauges, other than boost, would you recommend as beneficial to have? As the R gauge cluster is pretty bare, and from reading a post a while back, the water temp gauge doesn't have much movement for a pretty big temp change.<p>I'm thinking EGT and Water temp would be great additional gauges to add. Also, how good are AFR gauges? I read a review that said it was pretty much worthless as the jumps around so much you can't really get a good reading off it.<p>Maybe I'm misinformed, so please set the record straight for me!<p>Rue
 

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1 to 4, 1 being the most important. I think 1 & 2 are both just as important especially in the summer with a turbo car. <p>1. AFR<br>2. Oil Temp<br>3. EGT<br>4. Water Temp
 

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Boost <br>Oil Pressure <br>EGT <p>you dont need AFR and EGT there the same thing . <p>not tech but they tell you the same thing <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Important Gauges (Helmut Ranff)

AFR is worthless, unless you want a lightshow. A wideband is much more useful.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Chilled Man</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Boost <br>Oil Pressure <br>EGT <p>you dont need AFR and EGT there the same thing . <p>not tech but they tell you the same thing <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>How is is air/fuel ratio the same as exhaust gas temp?
 

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Re: (cmurphy2266)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>cmurphy2266</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>How is is air/fuel ratio the same as exhaust gas temp?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Whatever a/f your running..will dictate the Exhaust Gas Temp...
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>chinaonnitrous1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Whatever a/f your running..will dictate the Exhaust Gas Temp...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Not really... I'd much rather know if the car is running lean, especially when you are tuned and running 18-20psi, so you don't bend any rods. It's not like you'd know the exact AFR from a EGT.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>cmurphy2266</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Not really... I'd much rather know if the car is running lean, especially when you are tuned and running 18-20psi, so you don't bend any rods. It's not like you'd know the exact AFR from a EGT.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>True, also with pure white exhaust tips, i'm sure you'll know its extra lean too! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>chinaonnitrous1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>True, also with pure white exhaust tips, i'm sure you'll know its extra lean too! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah, I completely understand what you're saying. Higher temp, the car is running lean, and vise versa, but i'd rather know the actual AFR than just assuming.
 

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Some of you may want to learn how to read an EGT then. EGT is far more important than a wideband. It will tell you far more, and QUICKER, than a WB can.
 

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The EGT temperature tells when your car is about to blow up. For this<br>reason it is very useful on the track. On the street it is not as useful but<br>on the track it can tell you how long it will be before you explode and whether you should try to finish or not
 

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Re: (Helmut Ranff)

Because the S60R does not have an oil temp gauge I would say that this<br>is number one because it can help in so many ways
 

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I plead ignorance on the topic, but how would I go about installing an EGT? Would you have to tap the exhaust right out of the turbo, and basically weld a sensor that would come with the gauge? <p>What would be an unsafe temp for a car boosting at 18psi at WOT? What would be an expected idle/WOT temp?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>cmurphy2266</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I plead ignorance on the topic, but how would I go about installing an EGT? Would you have to tap the exhaust right out of the turbo, and basically weld a sensor that would come with the gauge? <p>What would be an unsafe temp for a car boosting at 18psi at WOT? What would be an expected idle/WOT temp? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>you would actually tap the exhuast side of the turbo housing .<p>but if you dont want to do that you can do it right in the dp right after the flange. <p>temp at idial 900 up to 1400 maxed out
 

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Thanks for the input. Being quite modded now, I want to keep an eye on the R, so I'll probably be adding EGT and Oil Temp, per your recommendations. <p>Where would you install an oil temp sensor?<p>Thanks!<p>Rue
 

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You tap the exhaust manifold as close as you can get to the head. After turbo will falsify the readings by about 200-300deg.<p><br>LOL At the tireforum mod, such a generalized description of what an EGT does. Now if I can get an EGT & laptop connected, between "your engine is going to blow up" and the laptops warning of "danger to manifold" I should be covered! <p>ROTFL
 

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IMO oil pressure is more important than oil temp. My old 240 Turbo coupe was great. Had factory boost, oil pressure and oil temp. Why the hell didn't Volvo didn't add these and integrate them smartly into the R?
 

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So where to hook up for oil temp and/or pressure?<p>Rue<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Rues R at 4:47 PM 5-4-2009</i>
 

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I'd like to see Volts, Oil Pressure, and EGT. In addition, if I had an automatic, I'd like to see Transmission Fluid Temperature.
 
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