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It seems to me that many members here get easily annoyed when the same topics are posted over and over again by newcomers, or by people who who not use the "search" function. Being a relatively new member, and having seen identical topics discussed 4 or 5 seperate times, I believe that this is an issue that should be addressed. But I don't think that showing hostility to these newcomers by telling them to take a hike and use the "search" function is the solution. Every week or two, a new prospective R member joins and asks the inevitable "what are some common problems with this car" question. I was once this person. Or a excited new owner asks questions like:<br>"What size spacers should I get" <br>"What tire pressure is best" or <br>"Which ECU upgrade is the best and what are the differences"<p>Now instead of blowing them off, or sending them to the search function where they will become overwhelmed with previous material, why don't we consolidate some of the previous discussions on FAQ into thorough and accurate Topics that can be filed in the "R Forum Launch Point to Useful Threads!" This would provide newbies with a good background on some of the typical R issues and topics before getting off to a bad start and angering the "Veterans" on this forum. It would also reduce confusion, frusturation, and bickering, resulting in more intelligent and meaningful new topics. For example, I believe the Wheel Offset Tutorial in the Useful Threads folder by JimLill was a step in the right direction. Now if we could assemble a few more of these tutorials in a concise, direct, and thorough manner, then I think the R forum would be a better place <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emlove.gif" BORDER="0"> . Some of my suggestions for these new tutorials include the topics quoted above as well as things like Blow Off Valves (now discussed 4 times since I've been here), Intake filters (explain the difference between switching filters, replacing stock airbox, RKelly CAI), exhaust systems, and so on and so on. Any suggestions on other approaches and tutorial topics are welcome. This idea may not be realistic, but if some of the more knowledgable folks here contributed, I think it would be worth while. <br>And I really hope this has not been discussed before, as I will never hear the end of it if it has! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: I have an idea... (jdog)

I discussed it with myself and other courteous veterans back when I started that!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> It just needs someone with the time to maintain it. Having it open lets it get clogged. Mail your ideas to Lee, who is a bit more regular here on R than I am these days.<p>
 

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Re: I have an idea... (JimLill)

Leaving them open would result in clogging. I was thinking some of the more experienced and knowledgable members could kind of collaborate using the older threads to create an up-to-date thread which would be locked. Users could always post more specific questions related to these topics in the main R forum. Obviously this is easier said that done, since I'm no expert on the R. It's just an idea that could take off if it gets support.
 

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Re: I have an idea... (JimLill)

Arrange them in good order and LOCK them, <B>for reading only </B><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>I think this would be of great help.<br>I also think that if arranged properly and properly titled many of the redundant questions would not be posted with none of the usual retorts posted afterwards!
 

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Re: I have an idea... (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Arrange them in good order and LOCK them, <B>for reading only </B><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>I think this would be of great help.<br>I also think that if arranged properly and properly titled many of the redundant questions would not be posted with none of the usual retorts posted afterwards!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>This would be a good weekend project for you JRL. Get to work!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emcocktl.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: I have an idea... (jdog)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jdog</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It seems to me that many members here get easily annoyed when the same topics are posted over and over again by newcomers, or by people who who not use the "search" function. Being a relatively new member, and having seen identical topics discussed 4 or 5 seperate times, I believe that this is an issue that should be addressed. But I don't think that showing hostility to these newcomers by telling them to take a hike and use the "search" function is the solution. Every week or two, a new prospective R member joins and asks the inevitable "what are some common problems with this car" question. I was once this person. Or a excited new owner asks questions like:<br>"What size spacers should I get" <br>"What tire pressure is best" or <br>"Which ECU upgrade is the best and what are the differences"<p>Now instead of blowing them off, or sending them to the search function where they will become overwhelmed with previous material, why don't we consolidate some of the previous discussions on FAQ into thorough and accurate Topics that can be filed in the "R Forum Launch Point to Useful Threads!" This would provide newbies with a good background on some of the typical R issues and topics before getting off to a bad start and angering the "Veterans" on this forum. It would also reduce confusion, frusturation, and bickering, resulting in more intelligent and meaningful new topics. For example, I believe the Wheel Offset Tutorial in the Useful Threads folder by JimLill was a step in the right direction. Now if we could assemble a few more of these tutorials in a concise, direct, and thorough manner, then I think the R forum would be a better place <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emlove.gif" BORDER="0"> . Some of my suggestions for these new tutorials include the topics quoted above as well as things like Blow Off Valves (now discussed 4 times since I've been here), Intake filters (explain the difference between switching filters, replacing stock airbox, RKelly CAI), exhaust systems, and so on and so on. Any suggestions on other approaches and tutorial topics are welcome. This idea may not be realistic, but if some of the more knowledgable folks here contributed, I think it would be worth while. <br>And I really hope this has not been discussed before, as I will never hear the end of it if it has! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>OK....here it is....<I>do a search</I><B></B><B></B>. J/K I totally agree w/ your soapbox. Best of luck w/ that. And I don't think anybody here's an expert on an R or they'd be Volvo R&D guys.
 

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Re: I have an idea... (jdog)

I think this is a great idea, and I've actually really wanted to do something like this for some time now. However, I simply don't have the time most days between my full-time job (which, by the way, my income is 100% based off commission, so having to hold people's hands so they can behave can get quite discouraging), my new house, and life in general. <p>So here's my suggestion. If any of you would like to tackle a particular topic, just start a thread that says, "I'm working on the FAQ for 'What is the best tire pressure?'" Then do the research, compile the answer succinctly, and then email me the answer. I'll ensure the thread stays toward the top of the list, and once you email me the answer, I'll post it in the "Launhpoint" thread, which will remain locked.<p>How does this sound? Any volunteers?
 

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Re: I have an idea... (r_driver04)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>r_driver04</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br> And I don't think anybody here's an expert on an R or they'd be Volvo R&D guys. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>... don't be too sure of that. There are people here with as much knowledge as any Volvo tech. rep. - and they're getting run out by the spammers. <p>And I don't mean me by any stretch (expert wise)...
 

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excellent idea for all sides.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: I have an idea... (R Salesman)

I think your suggestion is going to clog up the page with "I'm working on this..." posts. Besides, there is no right answer for tire pressure. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"><br>I'm willing to help out with this. I I'med you.
 

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Re: I have an idea... (jdog)

I also think this is a really good idea, especially because there are at least a couple of instances where really great informative posts happened where a thread went OT, so a search might not necessarily get you the best info.<p>I'm still learnin' a whole lot here, so don't know if I am qualified to arrange a "stickie" post, but if none of the real experts jump on this, I'll take up the challenge.
 

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Re: I have an idea... (pktojd)

people wanting to try this can "build a thread" over in the Test Forum and when you're happy with it, contact Lee or myself and we can move it and link it.<p>
 

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Re: I have an idea... (stevectsai)

Here's my contribution. I have seen several "I go X mph in Y gear at Z rpm, is that right?" posts. I decided to just make a table and see for myself if what the calcs and the speedometer say match. Here's my table:<p>(note: this is straight gear ratio based on a perfectly round tire, actual observed speeds are about 1-2mph slower. These were done based on a 17" wheel but should not change for an 18". I arbitrarily did not calculate speeds below 2000rpm)<p><br>Wheel width (mm) 235 <br>Tire aspect ratio (*100) 45 <br>Tire section heigth (mm) 211.5 <br>Wheel diameter (in) 17 <br>Tire diameter (in) 25.3 <br>Tire circumference (in) 79.6 <br>Final Drive 3.77 <p>Caculated Speed in MPH<br>RPM Gear 1/2/3/4/5/6<br>2000 12 19 28 37 46 57<br>2100 12 20 29 39 48 60<br>2200 13 21 31 40 51 63<br>2300 14 22 32 42 53 66<br>2400 14 23 34 44 55 69<br>2500 15 24 35 46 57 71<br>2600 15 25 36 48 60 74<br>2700 16 26 38 50 62 77<br>2800 17 27 39 51 64 80<br>2900 17 28 41 53 67 83<br>3000 18 29 42 55 69 86<br>3100 18 30 43 57 71 89<br>3200 19 31 45 59 74 91<br>3300 20 32 46 61 76 94<br>3400 20 33 48 62 78 97<br>3500 21 34 49 64 80 100<br>3600 21 35 50 66 83 103<br>3700 22 36 52 68 85 106<br>3800 22 37 53 70 87 108<br>3900 23 38 55 72 90 111<br>4000 24 39 56 73 92 114<br>4100 24 40 57 75 94 117<br>4200 25 41 59 77 96 120<br>4300 25 42 60 79 99 123<br>4400 26 43 61 81 101 126<br>4500 27 44 63 83 103 128<br>4600 27 45 64 84 106 131<br>4700 28 46 66 86 108 134<br>4800 28 47 67 88 110 137<br>4900 29 48 68 90 113 140<br>5000 30 49 70 92 115 143<br>5100 30 50 71 94 117 146<br>5200 31 51 73 95 119 148<br>5300 31 52 74 97 122 151<br>5400 32 53 75 99 124 154<br>5500 33 54 77 101 126 155<p>(After 5500 RPM, 5th gear proceeds up to 155mph at redline, 6th gear is capped at 155 mph)<p>I checked about a dozen points on this table and my results matched very well - usually about 1-2mph slower than shown above. If you have dramatically different observations, speak up.
 
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