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How to launch a S40 T5 FWD off a wet surface?

I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but just asking those with front-driven T5s: How do you launch your car from rest without spinning the front wheels on wet surfaces? <p>Sometimes when I'm on wet roads, accelerating slightly harder than normal will just give me a whole lot of vibration & shaking with little progress even if the wheels are pointing straight. The wheelspin only stops when the revs get above 3000rpm when starting off in 1st.<p>When the roads are dry, the T5 has no quarrel with traction even when flooring it off the start line. The car just takes off quickly, with a slight screeching from the front tyres.<p>And yes, before anyone blasts me, I know I shouldn't be driving fast when the road is wet but I'm just curious to find out how to get off the line fast minus the wheelspin... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>ps. My car is bone stock from factory (equipped with DSTC & Geartronic aka slushbox) and currently on 225/45/R17 tyres. My current technique is to leave it in D & bring the revs up progressively to 3000rpm before pressing further... even then it still spins when I press it.
 

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Re: How to launch a S40 T5 FWD off a wet surface? (frontwheeldriven)

Hi,I beleive this is your first FWD car <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>If you have FWD you have wheelspin, its that simple...especially in the wet.<br>Even my 100hp megane spins its wheels all through first gear if I'm on a wet surface, so its perfectly normal that your 230hp T5 spins
 

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Re: How to launch a S40 T5 FWD off a wet surface? (V50_T5)

On my S80, I run Michelin Pilot Sports on 18x8 tires, and they are insanely grippy in wet conditions. Before with my Pirelli's, I would tap the throttle in wet weather, and bam, DTSC would kick in. But with the Michelins, I feel a bit of initial wheel slip (maybe 1/4 of a revolution), but then the wheels grip and get me going pretty well. <p>Tires play a big role. Get a set of nice, wide A/S tires. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: How to launch a S40 T5 FWD off a wet surface? (volvocu)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>volvocu</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>If you have FWD you have wheelspin, its that simple...especially in the wet.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Bahahaha, all in the setup brotha. My other ride was making just under 400whp FWD and wheel spin was only an issue under full load. Best advice would be to get nice rain worthy tires and keep your foot out of you pedal <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>
 

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Re: How to launch a S40 T5 FWD off a wet surface? (frontwheeldriven)

As others have said, tires make a huge difference. Since you're bone stock you're probably on a set of Michelin Energy MXV4 tires which perform poorly in every test. <p>Stop by tirerack.com and check out some of the reviews for performance all-season tires. Bridgestone RE960A/S, Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S, and the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus are some good tires to start with. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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First of all, thanks to everyone for all the replies.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>volvocu</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi,I beleive this is your first FWD car <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>If you have FWD you have wheelspin, its that simple...especially in the wet.<br>Even my 100hp megane spins its wheels all through first gear if I'm on a wet surface, so its perfectly normal that your 230hp T5 spins</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, I've had plenty of FWD cars before this one and yes, while <I>all</I> of them will spin their wheels when it's wet, the T5 spins way more than all of them. I do accept a fair amount of slip (which lasts about 0.5 to 1 sec with my previous cars), but the T5 lasts about 2-3 seconds depending on how far down I go. Maybe I just need to be more delicate and progressive... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>V50_T5</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">very carefully <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> .. I've slipped in 3rd doing 30 mph after punching it</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Considering the amount of mods your car has, I think that's hardly any surprise... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>vivek9856</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On my S80, I run Michelin Pilot Sports on 18x8 tires, and they are insanely grippy in wet conditions. Before with my Pirelli's, I would tap the throttle in wet weather, and bam, DTSC would kick in. But with the Michelins, I feel a bit of initial wheel slip (maybe 1/4 of a revolution), but then the wheels grip and get me going pretty well. <p>Tires play a big role. Get a set of nice, wide A/S tires. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>skwirl</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As others have said, tires make a huge difference. Since you're bone stock you're probably on a set of Michelin Energy MXV4 tires which perform poorly in every test. <p>Stop by tirerack.com and check out some of the reviews for performance all-season tires. Bridgestone RE960A/S, Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S, and the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus are some good tires to start with. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes... this I agree. Sorry I forgot to mention that I'm currently on 225/45/R17 Bridgestone RE001 Adrenalin at the moment. My car came stock with Pirelli P7s but that was 5 years ago when it was new. After the stock tyres I had Michelin Pilot Sport 1 & Pirelli P Zero Rosso on my car. The first 3 sets were replaced after slightly over a year because of some rather unfriendly driving...
 

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Re: How to launch a S40 T5 FWD off a wet surface? (jdsr917)

Hello , _ Eye Know _ It's Been Raining all Yr. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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