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I'm looking madly in Southern california for a daily driver (either a 95 850T5R wagon or 98 V70R) while I dedicate my current car to weekend drag racing (which has an appetite for all sorts of european cars but alas cannot transport 1 person reliably, much less 5)<P>From the research I've managed to do, I guess the 850 T series engines and trannies are capable of running just a hair under 300 hp? Anyone know what kind of power the V70R's can handle?<P>Can someone also please tell me what year/model 850s came with manual trannies in the US? How much can the stock clutches handle? <P>I'm a stoplight confrontation/highway battle freak, and am getting the wagon as the ultimate sleeper/daily driver. Naturally I plan on running drag radials on a day to day basis, and need at least 350-400hp (neccessitating at least a turbo upgrade, I'm sure). I'm positive there is nothing quite like driving 4 coworkers to lunch and dusting a mustang on the way back. <P>The search continues. All I seem to be able to find are GLTs - the T5/T5R/R s are very rare down here. <P>Thanks in advance and I apologize if I seem a bit rabid.<P>
 

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Have a look at the "wheelspin" thread on the UK Volvo Owners Club Performance Car board and you'll see that the T5 or R vehicles are limited in static acceleration by the nature of their FWD format.<P>The V70R engine is the same one as the 850R - as indeed the V70 T5 engine, both having stronger internals compared to the T5-R and 850 T5, so that's the block to tweak if you're going to.<P>The manual box has a harder clutch (I've got one) but is I believe standard otherwise.<P>Don Norchi at Kalmar Union is currently preparing a racing S70 with LOADS of upgrades including a full race TRACS equivalent to remove wheelspin at all speeds, so why not contact him for details of what he's done (apart from removing all the interior trim, of course!)
 

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The main differences between the V70R AWD and the 850R manual I believe are an upgraded turbo. You can find more information at the TME website (they supply IPD with ECU and exhaust upgrade products. There is a link to TME and additional information in the current Project 854R article on the cover of Swedespeed.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 4G63Power:<BR><B>From the research I've managed to do, I guess the 850 T series engines and trannies are capable of running just a hair under 300 hp? Anyone know what kind of power the V70R's can handle?<P>Can someone also please tell me what year/model 850s came with manual trannies in the US? How much can the stock clutches handle? <P>I'm a stoplight confrontation/highway battle freak, and am getting the wagon as the ultimate sleeper/daily driver. Naturally I plan on running drag radials on a day to day basis, and need at least 350-400hp (neccessitating at least a turbo upgrade, I'm sure). <BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Great finally there's someone that's going to talk the same language here. From what I have heard from local DSM club back in Rochester, they had pretty OK luck with the 4G63 engines. Many of them are doing mid to low 12s before even have to look into upgrading engine internals. However, this is not the case at all for the Volvo. Forget about what they told you that the internal is stronger than regular 850 T5, rods will still bend (from personal exp).<P>As for the V70R models, different years have different ECUs...but the main differences are the turbo, intake manifold, tighter wastegate and the AWD tranny.<P>I know the V70R's tranny was supposed to be a bit stronger than the regular T5 manual, but I believe they are still using floating flywheel configuration. Not exactly the most ideal for high HP/Tq drag racing.<P>I have just gone through one tranny and a shattered flywheel. Not sure how the flywheel was damaged in the first place...not sure if the engine misfiring was the cause or the fractured flywheel was the cause. The lower main shaft bearing in the tranny is in pretty bad shape, the main shaft is broken into two pieces. BTW, I do have an aftermarket six pot kevlar clutch, maybe it's gripping more than what the floating flywheel can handle?<P>I'm sure from your experience with the DSM cars you should not have problem feeding more power to the R with few upgrades. Again, I can't stress more...making these T5 go fast is not hard, making them go fast and still being reliable is another story. My C70 has pretty much everything that's said in the book to make it go fast, but no one has done enough on these cars to tell me what else to look out for after getting all the HP.<P>I hope this help. There are many people out there fantasizing they can easily dial up the boost and live happily ever after, but none of them has ever really tried all their dream 'mods' on the car to find out the truth.<BR>
 

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Dave,<P>That is a clean looking DSM Eclipse ya got there! BTW, nice CF hood and FMIC too. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/wink.gif"><P> <IMG SRC="http://images.soliton.net/eclipse/4.jpg"> <P>-Drew
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by InDy:<BR><B>Dave,<P>That is a clean looking DSM Eclipse ya got there! BTW, nice CF hood and FMIC too. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/wink.gif"><P>-Drew</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Argghhh....Drew, if you keep on replying like that I can never catch up with your # of posts~!! Not like you don't have enough other cool insider info every two hours. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/wink.gif"><P>
 

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yeah .. actually overboost was an idea I had way back when I was in college. A couple of years ago we got some VC and put the thing together. I got burnt out and now I'm doing other stuff. racing's so much better when you don't work in the industry. The contacts and reseller id come in REAL handy when it comes time to purchase auto parts. I barely paid for half the stuff on the eclipse. <P><P>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 4G63Power:<BR><B>racing's so much better when you don't work in the industry. The contacts and reseller id come in REAL handy when it comes time to purchase auto parts. I barely paid for half the stuff on the eclipse. <BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Yeah, it seems like you guys sell quite a lot of stuff on that site. You gotta hook me up some day man....just dunno what I need at this point beside a tranny. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/tongue.gif"><P>I like how you guys always get to do these articles on some very interesting cars. The one I remember the most is the 240SX with Japanese Sylvia SR20 conversion and Lexus IS blue paint job. In fact, I was just talking about that on this board the other day.<P>Man..I miss good old days in Souther Cal. I dunno if this is still valid, but back in the days I was able to get my stock springs w/ some H&Rs for only $60 in labor~!!<P>BTW, why are you selling your car? Are you planning to sell that and get the V70R? Too bad, the TE37 wouldn't fit my 240 (a volvo that is), or I'd buy that from you in a heartbeat.<BR>
 
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