So I did my tune up this weekend and of course didn't wait for my filter wrench to show up. (Had a half dozen filter wrenches and straps that didn't work)<p>Since I was down there I did change the oil out so that is done, but has anyone changed the filter w/o draining the oil? Judging by the location I should have minimal loss while swapping out the cartridge, but before I go experimenting I wanted to see if anyone has a yes/no vote on this.<br>I'll be prepared w/ more oil on hand in case I need it and to re-top off, but should I expect a mess?<p>Thanks in advance<p>*and my side note, minus the oil filter this was the easiest tune up I've ever done - first FWD car and I'm liking the location of the plugs! * <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
How much (if any) oil will I lose changing the filter alone?
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I have, you'll probobly lose like 1/2-1qt at the very most. I don't think you'll lose any more than that. It may make a little mess, but it won't drain off the entire oil pan, it will just drain what is in the filter. Just let the car cool down. <p>btw, do you have an auto or manual? It's much easier to drain it on a manual volvo.
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this is actually a common practice for people who use higher grade sythetics. Many change filters at 3k and oil at ~7k+<p>i would expect to lose no more than a quart as the oil pan has a built in check valve.
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I am blessed with an auto <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Overall (special wrench aside) this is probably one the most accessable motors I've wrenched on.<p>thanks for the responses, that's pretty much what I expected but feel good having input.
I am blessed with an auto <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Overall (special wrench aside) this is probably one the most accessable motors I've wrenched on.<p>thanks for the responses, that's pretty much what I expected but feel good having input.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spiked60</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am blessed with an auto <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Overall (special wrench aside) this is probably one the most accessable motors I've wrenched on.<p>thanks for the responses, that's pretty much what I expected but feel good having input.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's good to know, a friend of mine who was a mechanic was complaining how the auto had some kind of computer box in the way which the oil got all over when he was draining it. I know that the manual is REALLY easy, since it's so small.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spiked60</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am blessed with an auto <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Overall (special wrench aside) this is probably one the most accessable motors I've wrenched on.<p>thanks for the responses, that's pretty much what I expected but feel good having input.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's good to know, a friend of mine who was a mechanic was complaining how the auto had some kind of computer box in the way which the oil got all over when he was draining it. I know that the manual is REALLY easy, since it's so small.
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yeah, there is that box on the rear of the oil pan, but that's a few inches off to one side and the drain plug is on the bottom so it doesn't drip and run anywhere.<br>Overall I wouldn't vote that a big concern really for oil changes.
yeah, there is that box on the rear of the oil pan, but that's a few inches off to one side and the drain plug is on the bottom so it doesn't drip and run anywhere.<br>Overall I wouldn't vote that a big concern really for oil changes.
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Me personally I wouldn't do it I believe you will lose alot more than 1/2 qt. to 1 qt. And I never heard of this being common practice murph. anyway good luck.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>crimnlmnded</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Me personally I wouldn't do it I believe you will lose alot more than 1/2 qt. to 1 qt. And I never heard of this being common practice murph. anyway good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I've done it, Not to be an a$$, but I think i would have known. <p>The reason I did it was because my car was leaking oil, and I was panicking, and I realized it was just because I had 2 rubber seals on the oil filter cap. <p>How many miles are on your S60?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>crimnlmnded</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Me personally I wouldn't do it I believe you will lose alot more than 1/2 qt. to 1 qt. And I never heard of this being common practice murph. anyway good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I've done it, Not to be an a$$, but I think i would have known. <p>The reason I did it was because my car was leaking oil, and I was panicking, and I realized it was just because I had 2 rubber seals on the oil filter cap. <p>How many miles are on your S60?
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My last one the '01 had 75,000 before I traded it in and the '04 R I have now has 75,000 as well. <br>what does this have to do with the subject at hand, I simply said I wouldn't do it and I never heard of this being common practice also you said you think 1/2 qt. to a qt. as if unsure of your numbers, not to be an a$$ either.
My last one the '01 had 75,000 before I traded it in and the '04 R I have now has 75,000 as well. <br>what does this have to do with the subject at hand, I simply said I wouldn't do it and I never heard of this being common practice also you said you think 1/2 qt. to a qt. as if unsure of your numbers, not to be an a$$ either.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>crimnlmnded</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My last one the '01 had 75,000 before I traded it in and the '04 R I have now has 75,000 as well. <br>what does this have to do with the subject at hand, I simply said I wouldn't do it and I never heard of this being common practice also you said you think 1/2 qt. to a qt. as if unsure of your numbers, not to be an a$$ either.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I wasn't the one who said it was common practice, i've only done it once, and I barely put any extra oil after doing. I was forced into doing it. I thought the same thing, but the guy at the shop I brought it to (I can't get under my car when I'm at school) said it would be fine.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>crimnlmnded</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My last one the '01 had 75,000 before I traded it in and the '04 R I have now has 75,000 as well. <br>what does this have to do with the subject at hand, I simply said I wouldn't do it and I never heard of this being common practice also you said you think 1/2 qt. to a qt. as if unsure of your numbers, not to be an a$$ either.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I wasn't the one who said it was common practice, i've only done it once, and I barely put any extra oil after doing. I was forced into doing it. I thought the same thing, but the guy at the shop I brought it to (I can't get under my car when I'm at school) said it would be fine.
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I'm sorry about that I know you didn't it was impulse who said it......<p>Anyway spiked good luck
I'm sorry about that I know you didn't it was impulse who said it......<p>Anyway spiked good luck
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>cmurphy2266</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have, you'll probobly lose like 1/2-1qt at the very most. I don't think you'll lose any more than that. It may make a little mess, but it won't drain off the entire oil pan, it will just drain what is in the filter. Just let the car cool down. <p>btw, do you have an auto or manual? <B>It's much easier to drain it on a manual volvo</B>. </TD></TR></TABLE><br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> how is that even true ?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>cmurphy2266</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have, you'll probobly lose like 1/2-1qt at the very most. I don't think you'll lose any more than that. It may make a little mess, but it won't drain off the entire oil pan, it will just drain what is in the filter. Just let the car cool down. <p>btw, do you have an auto or manual? <B>It's much easier to drain it on a manual volvo</B>. </TD></TR></TABLE><br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> how is that even true ?
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