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Hey guys, <p>I'm over on the VW boards all the time, and my wife and I are considering selling our '05 Passat 1.8T Quattro 5M (super rare) for something a bit more sporty..........<p>The S40 is at the top of our list, partially because of the European Delivery option. We've had great luck with lots of old-school Volvos years ago, and my parents have a new V8 XC90 that is awesome....<p>We'd be looking at a T5 sedan with manual transmission, probably FWD.........<p>How are the rear seat accomodations for infants in car seats, little kids, etc??? We've got a Toyota Sequoia for primary family duty, but it'd be nice not to have to remove the kids legs to put them in the back seat <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>We came out of an '03 Jetta VR6 into this Passat, and the Jetta was a great combination of sportiness, but the rear seat was tight. Now we've got the bland family sedan, and wish for the sportiness back;)<p>I know, an S60 is what we NEED, but it's outta our price range!<p><br>Any thoughts or comments are appreciated, we're an hour and a half from the nearest Volvo dealer, so I thought I would ask around before making the drive up there to look in person!<p>Thanks, Ben<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: How is the S40 as a family car? (Jettix2)

I have both a Jetta 1.8T wagon and a V50 T5, as well as a 3 year old. The V50 is a bit bigger on the inside, but not much. With the right options, its definitely sportier. And the interior is much nicer.
 

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Re: How is the S40 as a family car? (brewer23)

We currently have an s40 t5 as a loaner since our S60 is in the shop. Depending on how big you guys are you should be ok. We have our son on the passenger side in the back and my wife who is 5' 10" has to move the seat up but she has enough room to sit. I don’t know how it would be on long trips though. If you can swing it I'd go for something a little larger like the S60 maybe a certified preowned with low miles you could even get an R for around 30k. Especially if you may be looking at having another kid.<p>I should add this is with a forward facing car seat. I'd imagine with a rear facing one it would be really cramped in the front. And any dealer should let you install the seat in the car and put the kid in it and go for a drive so you can see for yourself.
 

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Re: How is the S40 as a family car? (Jettix2)

You should also be aware that even if you wouldn't use them right now, the S40 can be ordered with "Dual Integrated Child Booster Seats". Could be a nice feature to have if your kids are about to ditch the baby seat...<p><i><br>The two outer seats at the rear can be equipped with integrated child booster seats. They help to ensure that children sit at the right height to use the seat belt. At the same time, they have a much nicer view.<br></i><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.volvocars.us/imageWeb/6ee12e7c-28c2-45ee-8698-67ae4a7105e9.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p><br><A HREF="http://www.volvocars.us/models/s40/FeaturesOptions.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.volvocars.us/models...s.htm</A><br>
 

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Re: How is the S40 as a family car? (Dede)

I have a 2 year old and a 4 year old, and the back seat is sorta tight if you put anything back there with them.......It has enough room for normal day to day use, but a trip more than an a couple of hours might be a little cramped. We have two normal car seats in the back. Hope this helps.<p>Jeff <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: How is the S40 as a family car? (Jettix2)

I have two girls (5 and 2.5) and would not recommend the S40 with traditional car seats for long trips as the rear seat can get awfully cramped. Daily driving with boosters would be ok but I don't think I would have bought an S40 if I was responsible for driving the kids around. <p>My wife has an '02 Odyssey and as much as I dislike it, I have to admit it is very convenient and getting the kids in and out is a breeze.<p>With regard to the S60 - I think (but I may be wrong) that the S40 backseat is actually roomier. You may want to look into that. <p>You might want to consider a used V70 or XC70 with the child seats built in.<p>Good luck.
 

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Re: How is the S40 as a family car? (brewer23)

I think it would depend on how often the family rides with you. I have a wife and three kids, but I'm the one who drives it mostly to work and back. If you are trying to use the S-40 as a full time family car I think you will be dissapointed.
 

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Re: How is the S40 as a family car? (Jettix2)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Jettix2</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey guys, <p>How are the rear seat accomodations for infants in car seats, little kids, etc??? We've got a Toyota Sequoia for primary family duty, but it'd be nice not to have to remove the kids legs to put them in the back seat <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'm in the situation you describe, S40 for short trips to church, store, shopping etc and Explorer for real family space needs.<p>With the infant car seat behind the passenger seat, it has to be pushed pretty far forward. It's not a problem for us b/c my wife sits in the back with our baby. But I doubt an avg height person would like it. <p>I just upgraded his seat from infant seat. I first tried a high back. It still has to go in rear facing, and it left very little space to put my son in it and couldn't be installed to my satisfaction (too loose) so I took it back and got one of the regular car seats for 20 lbs and up. I wouldn't worry too much about getting integrated boosters. You can buy a booster seat for $20.<p>Add a normal stroller to the trunk, not the umbrella stroller, not much room for anything else. <p>I had the car before the baby and wish I'd gotten a wagon b/c of limited space.<p>I'm also a little over an hour from the dealer, and it's kind of pain to have to drive that far for service. After it comes off warranty, I have a Volvo repair shop closer, so i'll start using them. <p>
 

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Re: How is the S40 as a family car? (Jettix2)

come on... what's wrong with all of you people?<p>we have two kids: a 3 year old girl, and a 4 year old boy. <p>a few weeks ago we had to make an emergency trip to NEW JERSEY. we live in SW FLORIDA! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> we had about 24 hours notice for the funeral and subsequent road trip. given the short notice, plane tickets were out of the question. not to mention i wanted to drive somewhere besides boring, flat sw fl. <p>we drove non-stop for 22 hours all the way up. it friggin rained from north carolina, all the way through virginia, maryland, delaware, all the way to our in-laws front door in new jersey. <p>in case you were wondering where we put our luggage, the trunk was packed for a family of four planning on a week's stay. <p>considering our road trip, week's stay and subsequent 26 hour non-stop "scenic-route return trip", you could say i am experienced w/ the s40 as a family car. <p>here are my observations:<p>(1) the trunk is not small. the problem is that the TRUNK OPENING is ludicrously small in comparison to the depth of the trunk. if you want to pack your s40 you will need a well-chosen luggage set and a wife that knows how to pack. fortunately, i have both. <p>(2) the s40 is not what i consider a large car for two adults and two small children. i am six feet tall and 215 lbs. i feel comfortable in the s40. however, different people think of "comfort" differently. comfort to me is being hugged by an ergonomic seat while carving through a curve trying to pull .75g. <p>despite it's size, the s40's interior is packed w/ various mesh nets throughout. during our trip these held everything from kid's snacks to wipes to the road atlas. so, not so big of a car, but a very well organized interior. <p>(3) comfortable, well behaved children are a matter of proper child seats and proper discipline. our kids cruised in the back for two days w/ barely a peep. the rear seat has the flip down center console for their snacks and whatever. <p>fwiw, some of my wife's friends have cavernous suvs w/ dvd entertainment and the like. they can't get their kids across a parking lot w/o one of them freaking out. go figure. <p>(4) finally, the s40 isn't just our family car. it's our only ONLY car. (my other car is a trek 1500). we figured if we were going to have one car, it was going to be a good one! i don't think it's perfect (what car is?), but it's ok for my family and i.<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: How is the S40 as a family car? (mmb.net99)

for a family, i would probably consider it on the small side. <br>ok for couples and a baby perhaps, but a couple and 2 or 3 full grown kids... probably not so comfortable.<p>
 

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Re: How is the S40 as a family car? (Jettix2)

My opinion and experiences only...the car is small for a family. I have two boys, 4 and 7 and when we head out traveling or even on a day trip, i find myself wishing I still have the V70 wagon. The car is small. Hardly fit a cooler, let alone any amounts of gear in the trunk. I had to use a Thule box to carry additioanl luggage/stuff for the kids and I. We also use this car for skiing and even with the skis and boots in the box, there is little room in the trunk for all the other ski gear. The back seat is rather small too. Its fine for the kids but I would be hard pressed to put a bunch of adults in there for any extended period of time. I have sat in the back a few times with the wife driving and it is tight for me. Don't get me wrong, I love the car. However, for an active family of 4, it could use some more room. Mines on lease which is up next year. Will most likly stay with Volvo, but get something bigger.
 

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Re: How is the S40 as a family car? (vroom)

One more note, I think the trunk space is smaller with the AWD car. Don't know if this is true, but that was a comment I heard. Figures, I have the AWD.
 

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Re: How is the S40 as a family car? (vroom)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>vroom</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One more note, I think the trunk space is smaller with the AWD car. Don't know if this is true, but that was a comment I heard. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's true. The AWD car has a raised load floor in the trunk versus the FWD car to accommodate the AWD mechanicals underneath.
 

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Re: How is the S40 as a family car? (mullmann)

Smaller fuel tank too, but kids are always asking you to stop so crusing range makes no diff anyhow. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I guess I agree that the car is on the small side for a typical US family. But it's not way small. We're usually in the XC90 rather than the V50, frankly. Would be no contest if an S40.<p>Tom.
 
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