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I have found an R for sale, '04 mt with 18k miles. It has had all scheduled maintenance done as well as warrantied updates and minor repairs. It also has had minor body work to the left rear bumber; I have seen the receipt and the total was $628 - only sanding and painting no new parts. It has every option except the 3rd row. It is being consigned at a private retailer, who reports that the owner is a well-off guy who buys nice and trades inevery couple of years; the service department at the local dealer is eqaully positive about the condition of the car and the fastidiousness of its owner. FWIW, dealer says he has two people lined up for the car, but what else would you expect him to say.<p>The problem is the car is 500 miles away, and if I purchase, it will basically be on a wing and a prayer. Of course I am as crazy as my wife thinks, probably more so. Aren't we all? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> But is this really a bad idea to go ahead with?
 

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Re: How insane is it to buy a car sight unseen? (pktojd)

I always find someone I know on the net to scout it for me.....<p>
 

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Re: How insane is it to buy a car sight unseen? (pktojd)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pktojd</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But is this really a bad idea to go ahead with? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>How much are they asking for the car?<p>-Eric
 

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Re: How insane is it to buy a car sight unseen? (pktojd)

<A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=58147" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=58147</A> Just a thought. <p>A dealership will always tell you there are others waiting to buy it. Truth is you can find good deals on these cars as they really don't fly off the dealerships.
 

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Re: How insane is it to buy a car sight unseen? (pktojd)

I have customers agree to purchase vehicles from me "sight unseen" all the time. The way I do it is this:<p>I'll take a deposit on the vehicle that is refundable, pending their inspection of the vehicle. I am very upfront and forthcoming with all aspects of the vehicle. If they show up, and the vehicle isn't what I said it was, no problem -- I'll refund their money. But if they show up, and the vehicle is everything I said it is, and they agree that it's everything I said it is, then they're obligated to purchase the vehicle or forfeit their deposit. <p>It's a pretty reasonable way to handle the sight unseen situation. Perhaps you can offer up this solution to see if the dealer would be acceptable of it. But MAKE SURE you get their deposit policy in writing.
 

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Anyone doing an OSD is really doing this.
 

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I tried to get someone from the board to cruise by, but he wouldn't reply. The selling price is $31,600, bottom line. Nice ride, but I need a wagon.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>flybynight</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone doing an OSD is really doing this.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah, but brand new is a different deal altogether.
 

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Re: How insane is it to buy a car sight unseen? (pktojd)

I have a bridge for sale, if you're interested.<p>I agree with Jim, ask someone here to look it over for you. I have done it a couple times for other SS members.
 

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Re: How insane is it to buy a car sight unseen? (pktojd)

Having just bought a V70R unseen (but from a dealer), I can share my expereince. First, ask the dealer for the phone number of the seller. He should be more than happy to talk to you if you are a serious potential buyer. Second, put a deposit on your credit card (after a verbal agreement on the deposit policy). This allows you to cancel the deposit if there is an argument later. Third, make sure that someone (dealer) produces a complete service record (or ask the owner if he has the paperwork). Fourth, run a carfax. Fifth, get on a plane, but buy a round trip ticket, <B>after</B> you have negotiatied the final price.<p>If the car is nice - buy it and be happy. Use the ticket for some other trip.<br>If the car is not as nice as advertised - walk away and fly back and make your wife proud.<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>
 

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Even fully loaded and 18k miles? CPO's are shoing up on autotrader (and in the volvocars.us system) for $35k+ with fewer options.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DRT</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">$31,600 is high for 04 V70R from a private seller. You should be able to get a CPO for about that.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I agree. I'd want a CPO'd car for almost $32K. Consider that many SS'ers have bought well equipped '06 models for well under $40K.<p>-Eric
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Sue Esponte</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I agree. I'd want a CPO'd car for almost $32K. Consider that many SS'ers have bought well equipped '06 models for well under $40K.<p>-Eric</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Agreed...I bought my '04 with 26,000 miles for $28k, private party. All options except for 3rd row and on-call plus. The car was very clean except for one scratched peg.<p>And I don't think that was a stellar deal. I had to pull the trigger because I had a buyer for our S40 and I didn't have the luxury of being without the car. I only negotiated $1,000 off and was too eager. Oh well, I love the car.<p>So even though it's 8k less miles, it's no stellar deal at $32k.<p>When I was shopping last fall, CPO's on the Volvo website with 15k to 25k miles could be had for $31k to $33k, and that warranty is now worth $2,500 to $2,800.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Sue Esponte</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I agree. I'd want a CPO'd car for almost $32K. Consider that many SS'ers have bought well equipped '06 models for well under $40K.<p>-Eric</TD></TR></TABLE><p>For a refernce, I bought my '04 with 25k miles for $29k, from dealer with CPO to 100k miles. All options except nav.
 

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May be I just haven't done my research. Everyone keeps saying this is high, but I am not seeing the bargains they are comparing it to. This has all options - atacama, nav, prem, conv, clim, boosters (and I actually want the boosters). And it's a 6-sp, a little harder to come by. And it's a wagon.<p>Where can I get one of these $29k- redtags?!
 

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You did not say <B>Atacama and Nav AND boosters</B>, price is just fine.<br>I would do the above, put a deposit on your credit card and follow through with the above instructions<br>Don't listen to the peanut gallery, an 04 with these (good) miles and all that equipment doesn't grow on trees and not many are around for sale<br>I sell cars all the time out of state to people that never see the car until it arrives on their doorstep, no complaints (yet) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> . Try to get some good pictures
 
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