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Let's lead it off with this. The Army charging a solidier for Body Armor <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><B>"By ALLISON BARKER, Associated Press Writer <br>Wed Feb 8, 6:11 PM ET<br> <p><br>CHARLESTON, W.Va. - A former soldier injured in Iraq is getting a refund after being forced to pay for his missing body armor vest, which medics destroyed because it was soaked with his blood, officials said Wednesday. <br>"</B>
 

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Re: HORROR Stories of what Coalition troops must endure in IRAQ or Afganistan! (shuttlecommander)

REPOST: <A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=53259" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=53259</A>
 

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Re: HORROR Stories of what Coalition troops must endure in IRAQ or Afganistan! (shuttlecommander)

<A HREF="http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=1562145&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312" TARGET="_blank">Wounded soldiers told they owe money to army: Nightline</A>
 

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Re: HORROR Stories of what Coalition troops must endure in IRAQ or Afganistan! (shuttlecommander)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>shuttlecommander</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <A HREF="http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=1562145&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312" TARGET="_blank">Wounded soldiers told they owe money to army: Nightline</A> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>so they got overpaid, and your govt wanted its money back. it could have been executed better, but if it IG does an audit, and says 'x' number of soldiers were overpaid and noone cares, you and those of your ilk would be posting that here.<br>Those of my ilk will be saying, 'this figures, the govt is screwed up, this goes to show how screwed up it is' and those of the conspiracy ilk will say it's purposely screwed up.<p>So, what's your point? If you're going to post threads, at least comment on them. And, where's the 'horror stories' of what troops are enduring in Iraq and Afghanistan<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by bpwrightwv at 1:17 PM 2-9-2006</i>
 

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Re: HORROR Stories of what Coalition troops must endure in IRAQ or Afganistan! (bpwrightwv)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bpwrightwv</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>... it could have been executed better, ... , 'this figures, the govt is screwed up, this goes to show how screwed up it is' ...<br>So, what's your point? If you're going to post threads, at least comment on them. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I guess this pretty much sums it up, I don't think any further comment is needed. And GI's permanently mamed in combat serving their country should suffer twice? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: HORROR Stories of what Coalition troops must endure in IRAQ or Afganistan! (bpwrightwv)

This is total BS. The Army knows exactly when soldiers are leaving combat zone, and they routinely screw up and overpay for a couple of months. <p>But quite honestly, it is hard for Soldies to know when they get overpaid. They are off fighting a war, pay is going into their bank account back home via direct deposit. Their wives are back home spending the money and paying the bills. <p>The problem isn't that they got overpaid and the govt should get their money back, it is how they are taking it. In the air force, they usually take it back spread out over 1-2 years. The Army is taking it all at once, and some guys aren't getting a pay check for four months. <p>I saw the Nightline interview on TV where Colonel who was put in charge of a team formed to specifically to fix this problem had to dance and evade questions for 10 minutes instead of giving honest answers. Felt sorry for him. He said he didn't think it was widespread...<p><I>Shrank was asked if it had happened thousands of times. "I, no, I do not think thousands of times," he said. "It happened, one time is too many." <p>Shrank could not name an exact number, but the Army told "Nightline" that 5,549 soldiers, or about one out of five soldiers who were removed from battle for medical reasons later had payroll problems.</I> <p>This has happened to me before, I'll get overpaid for a Temporary Duty, or when I moved on base they didn't stop my off base allowance in time, but unless you are checking your paycheck on-line (they don't issue pay statements on paper anymore), you may not notice until their is a bunch of money missing from your paycheck. <p>At any rate, it is crap that the Army screws up, doesn't tell the soldier that they did, and then forces him to deal with their mistake when he gets no money. Very difficult to deal with normally, really hard when they are injured in a hospital on the other side of the world from their finance office. <p>shame...
 

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Re: HORROR Stories of what Coalition troops must endure in IRAQ or Afganistan! ("R" Kelly)

"R" is right. The Army pay system is screwed up. Pay problems were common among the soldiers I have had working for me (in joint assignments). For some reason pay problems in the Army seem more common and harder to fix than for sailors and airmen.
 

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Re: HORROR Stories of what Coalition troops must endure in IRAQ or Afganistan! (US R n UK)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>US R n UK</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"R" is right. The Army pay system is screwed up. Pay problems were common among the soldiers I have had working for me (in joint assignments). For some reason pay problems in the Army seem more common and harder to fix than for sailors and airmen. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>All soldiers, all airmen and all sailors. Not just wounded ones, and it's not a 'Horror story of what coalition troops endure in Iraq or Afghanistan'<p>It's experienced military wide, world wide, non-combat and combat theaters alike. Sorry, 'commander' no hay here, move along
 

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Re: HORROR Stories of what Coalition troops must endure in IRAQ or Afganistan! (bpwrightwv)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bpwrightwv</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>All soldiers, all airmen and all sailors. Not just wounded ones, and it's not a 'Horror story of what coalition troops endure in Iraq or Afghanistan'<p>It's experienced military wide, world wide, non-combat and combat theaters alike. Sorry, 'commander' no hay here, move along</TD></TR></TABLE><p>does this guy sound like a guy who just wants us to not pay attention to things?........
 

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Re: HORROR Stories of what Coalition troops must endure in IRAQ or Afganistan! (bpwrightwv)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bpwrightwv</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's experienced military wide, world wide, non-combat and combat theaters alike. Sorry, 'commander' no hay here, move along</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Uh, that was my point. I'm talking about <I>my</I> soldiers and <I>their</I> pay problems - not wounded soldiers or "horror stories about Iraq/Afghanistan. The point is [again], the Army pay system is screwed up. Yes, airmen, sailors, and marines have pay problems too, but in my experience the Army seems the worst.
 

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Re: HORROR Stories of what Coalition troops must endure in IRAQ or Afganistan! (US R n UK)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>US R n UK</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Uh, that was my point. I'm talking about <I>my</I> soldiers and <I>their</I> pay problems - not wounded soldiers or "horror stories about Iraq/Afghanistan. The point is [again], the Army pay system is screwed up. Yes, airmen, sailors, and marines have pay problems too, but in my experience the Army seems the worst. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I understood your point, and I'm reinforcing it for those who some how are trying to make political hay out of it and make it something it isn't by using grand titles
 
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