i am a complete hater of the stock pirelli tires. i drive hard and these tires are awful. my friend has a bmw 330 sport with michelin pilot sports and his car sticks to the road like glue. i want to have this feeling on my R. anyone have suggestions for the best tire to use?
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Re: horrible tires (dhellz)
I've had good luck with the Goodyear F1's.
The funny thing is that I sold my friend my old tires for use on her TL, and she loves them. Much better than stock TL tires she says.
I've had good luck with the Goodyear F1's.
The funny thing is that I sold my friend my old tires for use on her TL, and she loves them. Much better than stock TL tires she says.
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Re: horrible tires (dhellz)
OEM tires are fine when they have decent tread.
OEM tires are fine when they have decent tread.
Re: horrible tires (flybynight)
Interesting! My experience was just the opposite. Although I didn't like the Rossos when new, as they were near the end of their life they actually started to perform quite well, in a dry environment of course.
Interesting! My experience was just the opposite. Although I didn't like the Rossos when new, as they were near the end of their life they actually started to perform quite well, in a dry environment of course.
Re: horrible tires (dhellz)
Toyo Proxes, after the first 500 miles and with proper tire pressures, are excellent alternatives to Pirelli and Michelin. I have the Proxes-4 M+S on the R and my friend has the Proxes T1R on his M3. Both are very good tires. The Proxes-4 offers great year-round performance and a very nice ride quality. I haven't owned these tires long enough to comment on treadwear - they are rated 300. We'll see...
http://www.toyo.com/tires/tire_lines/sports_car/
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Toyo Proxes, after the first 500 miles and with proper tire pressures, are excellent alternatives to Pirelli and Michelin. I have the Proxes-4 M+S on the R and my friend has the Proxes T1R on his M3. Both are very good tires. The Proxes-4 offers great year-round performance and a very nice ride quality. I haven't owned these tires long enough to comment on treadwear - they are rated 300. We'll see...
http://www.toyo.com/tires/tire_lines/sports_car/
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Re: horrible tires (dhellz)
I thought you were replacing these anyway since you sold them to Fischmama.....but then cut two of them and cancelled the sale.
http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=59220
As others noted, a stock R has nowhere near the handling balance of the 330. The BMW does it through chassis and suspension (RWD or RWD bias in the xi helps too) whereas the R tries to make up for it with tires on a FWD biased/nose heavy car. If you wanted a BMW, perhaps you should have bought one?
Modified by MagoonR at 8:42 AM 6-2-2006
| Quote, originally posted by dhellz » |
| i am a complete hater of the stock pirelli tires. i drive hard and these tires are awful. my friend has a bmw 330 sport with michelin pilot sports and his car sticks to the road like glue. i want to have this feeling on my R. anyone have suggestions for the best tire to use? |
I thought you were replacing these anyway since you sold them to Fischmama.....but then cut two of them and cancelled the sale.
http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=59220
As others noted, a stock R has nowhere near the handling balance of the 330. The BMW does it through chassis and suspension (RWD or RWD bias in the xi helps too) whereas the R tries to make up for it with tires on a FWD biased/nose heavy car. If you wanted a BMW, perhaps you should have bought one?
Modified by MagoonR at 8:42 AM 6-2-2006
Re: horrible tires (MagoonR)
I switched to Dunlop Sport Maxx tires within six months of taking delivery of my car. Sticky in the dry & wet, quiet, good treadwear rating and it has substantial rim protection.
We had the dealer swap the POS P-Zeros on my wife's R (prior to delivery) with P-Zero Nero M&S and we've been very happy with them.
Good luck!
Regards,
Derek
I switched to Dunlop Sport Maxx tires within six months of taking delivery of my car. Sticky in the dry & wet, quiet, good treadwear rating and it has substantial rim protection.
We had the dealer swap the POS P-Zeros on my wife's R (prior to delivery) with P-Zero Nero M&S and we've been very happy with them.
Good luck!
Regards,
Derek
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Re: horrible tires (clee)
P Zero Nero M+S are a really good match for this car and I have cornered them at unspeakable speeds and they were good in medium snow http://********************/smile/emthup.gif
P Zero Nero M+S are a really good match for this car and I have cornered them at unspeakable speeds and they were good in medium snow http://********************/smile/emthup.gif
Re: horrible tires (JARMO)
A FWD biased AWD. The BMW is a better handling chassis IMO (probably stiffer too) which is a big plus.
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Always funny to read that a rwd is stickier than an awd
the score is 2-0 (2 wrecked their m3's of my new collegues trying to follow me
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A FWD biased AWD. The BMW is a better handling chassis IMO (probably stiffer too) which is a big plus.
Re: horrible tires (JRL)
I second that motion for PS2 on the R, swapping out the OEM Rosso's to PS2 was like night and day in terms of a better match with 4C, that is.
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| Michelin PS2's or PS All Seasons are GRRREAT on an R (I've used both) |
I second that motion for PS2 on the R, swapping out the OEM Rosso's to PS2 was like night and day in terms of a better match with 4C, that is.
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Re: horrible tires (MagoonR)
in a straight line it's fwd-biased..NOT during cornering! in corners it's "designed" to go the fastest way tru it (if you can "feel" at least why the car does that during middle of corner and don't get scared and lift...hahahaha...the feeling is like the car is bending like a banana in the middle of corner
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| Quote, originally posted by MagoonR » |
| A FWD biased AWD. The BMW is a better handling chassis IMO (probably stiffer too) which is a big plus. |
in a straight line it's fwd-biased..NOT during cornering! in corners it's "designed" to go the fastest way tru it (if you can "feel" at least why the car does that during middle of corner and don't get scared and lift...hahahaha...the feeling is like the car is bending like a banana in the middle of corner
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Guess those tires are okay after all?
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| so jarmo u are saying that when the car starts to bend its no need to pull up? i feel like its losing control. but i feel alot of that is due to the tires sliding. |
Guess those tires are okay after all?
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As my Rosso's wore on, they'd plow (understeer) more and more. This was not a confidence inducing thing, but I got used to it. As soon as I put F1's on, I got that wonderful "bend" feeling back. http://********************/smile/emthup.gif Much better.
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| but i feel alot of that is due to the tires sliding. |
As my Rosso's wore on, they'd plow (understeer) more and more. This was not a confidence inducing thing, but I got used to it. As soon as I put F1's on, I got that wonderful "bend" feeling back. http://********************/smile/emthup.gif Much better.
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Re: horrible tires (JARMO)
Antwerpen is 100% correct. It is is quite a feeling, just do not be afraid
Antwerpen is 100% correct. It is is quite a feeling, just do not be afraid
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