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Hey everybody - new to this site and so far it looks great. My last Swedish car was a Saab 9-3 Aero and SaabCentral was great. It looks like this forum will be as well.<p>I bought my first R in August of last year...2005 Silver with everything except Nav. Had my first accident ever on Thanksgiving when I hit a guy in a Toyota truck at 50mph when he decided to take a right turn from the center lane. 6 weeks later I had my R back. Three weeks later I traded my 05 for a new 06 R in Electric Silver with EVERYTHING, and added the body kit. LOVE THIS CAR. LOVE IT!!!!<p>BUT - they made some small changes in the 06's. It has the 6 speed tranny, and the pre-charged all wheel drive. Funny thing is tho...my 06 seems so much slower than my 05. Still fast...but not a throw your head back fast that my 05 was. <p>It seems to me the new 6speed is sticking between 2-3 gears when in sport mode. I asked the dealer and they did a diagnostic, and they said it's just the way the tranny shifts.<p>I was wondering if it's just my car or if any others with 06's have noticed the same thing. I'm an enthusiast with a lot of cars under my belt...so I know i'm not just imagining it.<p>Also - I'm trying to get BSR to let me use the PPC that i bought for my old R in my new R. They are not so cooperative. When i PPC'd my SAAB it was night and day - but I could not tell much dif with the Volvo. All it seemed to do is make the turbo noise louder.<p>Anyway...glad I found this forum!<p>-s-<p><br>
 

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Well, you say 6-speed, so if you are talking a stick shift, the power is the same from '05 to '06.<br>If you are talking about an automatic, the '06 would be probably about a second quicker to 60MPH. The '06 doesn't have as much of a torque limit on the first two gears as the '05 model.<br>R's are sensitive to fuel. I assume you are using at least 91 octane? You should try to get that up to 94 octane for maximum performance.
 

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Re: Hey guys...new here...and on my second R in 7 months. (parkstephen)

<br>You just said you HAD a BSR PPC in the 05 and you wonder why your 06 seems slower? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>You're already down nearly 30 hp, of course you would think it's slower, it IS slower <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Sorry guys...I meant the six speed Automatic - which is new for 06. And when I was comparing, it was in stock format - not tuned. I always run 91 in it. Can't find 94 in CA.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>parkstephen</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry guys...I meant the six speed Automatic - which is new for 06. And when I was comparing, it was in stock format - not tuned. I always run 91 in it. Can't find 94 in CA.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Vs a 6 speed 05 or an auto 05?
 

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Re: Hey guys...new here...and on my second R in 7 months. (parkstephen)

If you want the snap your head back feel again, I just heve 3 letters to type............<B><U><I>IPD</I></U></B>
 

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Re: Hey guys...new here...and on my second R in 7 months. (parkstephen)

What I want to know is, were you hurt at all in your accident?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>flybynight</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>R's are sensitive to fuel. I assume you are using at least 91 octane? You should try to get that up to 94 octane for maximum performance.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Great.....I was looking at 100 octane unleaded today for $8+ a gallon <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Guess I will have to stick with the 91 they sell in CA as $40 for 5 gallons isn't happening no matter how much I like it.<br>Jim
 

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Re: Hey guys...new here...and on my second R in 7 months. (frankhoffy)

Ok...to answer all the questions, or at least try.<p>1. I am comparing 5 Speed Auto to 6 Speed auto. I think it might seem smoother/slower as the Haldex is now precharged. I think this makes the acceleration a bit smoother as the all wheel drive is smoother as it picks which wheels for traction.<p>2. I was not hurt in the least. If fact...I barely felt anything during the hit. It was quite amazing...hence the new 06 Volvo. <p>I'm kind of a hard driver with a heavy foot...but the gas mileage is terrible...and 3.0 as gallon doesnt' help. But it's better than the 3.5 a gallon a few months ago. I will gladly pay for the fun this car is.<p>I'll post pics soon. Very few Electric silver cars with the body kit. for some reason Volvo did not make that color available painted form the factory. $1995.00 dealer option- versus 1800.00 for the parts and 1000.00 painted and installed.<p>Oh well...<p>I'm not nuts, btw. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>
 

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I would like to see the pictures as my R is the electric silver. I am going to have the body kit put on, but it will probably be a couple of months. I have not noticed the "sticking" between gears though and mine is an automatic.<p>btw, JRL thinks everyone is nuts!
 

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Re: Hey guys...new here...and on my second R in 7 months. (parkstephen)

If you '06 auto is slower than your stock '05 auto, then something is wrong with your '06. <p>In addition to the published 38 lb ft reduction in torque in 1st/2nd gear on 5 sp autos, there was an additional torque reduction Volvo didn't tell anyone about. <p>You have at least 52 lb ft more torque in 1st/2nd, along with pre-charged haldex, and you think it is slower?<p>How many mile on your '06? You know that the R loosens up and gets noticeably quicker after 1200 mile break in.<p>If nothing is wrong with your '06, then I think you are mixing in your memories of BSR on '05.
 

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Re: Hey guys...new here...and on my second R in 7 months. (parkstephen)

I don't thinK he's nuts (no icon for what I think <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> ) but what he's saying doesn't make a whole lot of sense here
 

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Re: Hey guys...new here...and on my second R in 7 months. (JRL)

Like I said in many of my posts in the past, a smoother but stronger car feels slower than a butt dyno faking boost spike at spoolup and nothing after that.<p>
 

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Re: Hey guys...new here...and on my second R in 7 months. (parkstephen)

Welcome to Swedespeed. Congrats on the new car.<p>WRT BSR, do they want you to buy a new PPC? Can't they meet you somewhere in the middle?
 

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Re: Hey guys...new here...and on my second R in 7 months. (parkstephen)

See my post below from the V70R forum - When i read yours I think it is the same problem. I notice it in both modes - sport/normal. It also seems to stick between 3-4th. I'm going to see what the dealer has to say shortly: <p>I just picked up a 06 V70R w/6 spd geartronic (<1000 miles on it so far) On the 01 XC70 I traded in the shifting was seamless and rarely noticable. I am finding that the v70r transmission, whether in Sport mode or not, seems to be thinking about which gear to be in before engaging. When I accelerate there is an annoying delay before upshifting and if I do a rolling stop, or slow down around a corner at an intersection, it is often searching for the right gear when I accelerate again. <p>Perhaps this is normal due to the tranmission handling the horsepower of the car, but I am not impressed compared to how my old XC70 used to up/down shift. <p>If you go to <A HREF="http://www.v70r.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3064" TARGET="_blank">http://www.v70r.com/forums/ind...=3064</A> you'll see the reponses. Unfortunately no real solution
 

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Re: Hey guys...new here...and on my second R in 7 months. (peterr06)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>peterr06</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">See my post below from the V70R forum - When i read yours I think it is the same problem. I notice it in both modes - sport/normal. It also seems to stick between 3-4th. I'm going to see what the dealer has to say shortly: <p>I just picked up a 06 V70R w/6 spd geartronic (<1000 miles on it so far) On the 01 XC70 I traded in the shifting was seamless and rarely noticable. I am finding that the v70r transmission, whether in Sport mode or not, seems to be thinking about which gear to be in before engaging. When I accelerate there is an annoying delay before upshifting and if I do a rolling stop, or slow down around a corner at an intersection, it is often searching for the right gear when I accelerate again. <p>Perhaps this is normal due to the tranmission handling the horsepower of the car, but I am not impressed compared to how my old XC70 used to up/down shift. <p>If you go to <A HREF="http://www.v70r.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3064" TARGET="_blank">http://www.v70r.com/forums/ind...=3064</A> you'll see the reponses. Unfortunately no real solution</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I would gladly trade you my '04 AW55 Geartronic and it's 258ft-lbs of torque engine, and it's 500 rpm flurry, engage drop on downshifts for your 6spd 295 ft-lb torque '06 transmission.<p>What I'm saying is, Volvo may be correct. It may be the way the trans shifts. I have been told that the 500rpm flurry can't be programmed out. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Hey guys...new here...and on my second R in 7 months. (peterr06)

Some guys here make me smile. Basically BSR has said i need to buy a new one. Which after two purchase, i am not happy with. I mean, i only ran the BSR on my car for a few weeks - but i did not like the sound of the turbo after and actually felt it ran better stock.<p>My transmission seems to be doing the same as your V70R. When the 05 model in was in sport mode (trans or Advanced buttons pushed), the immediate accelleration and shiftings were so precise - you would always know exactly there the gear was, and the "punch the accellerator kick down" worked well. In the new one, the up and down shifts are haphazzard at best. I asked them if there were any tranny updates or to flash it and reprogram it. They said they did not see an issue.<p>It's not that big of a deal, but at some point i will have a vovlo rep look at it if it doesn't get any better. I only have 1200 miles on my new one - so i'm giving it a bit of time for break in.<p>Another thing is the Mode buttons. In the 05, Advanced Sport and the Sport button for the tranny operated independantly. In the 06, when you press Advanced Sport, the Sport Tranny light comes on and cannot be disabled. Just a bit of trivia.<p>-s-
 
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