Nothing special here, but it's been in the low 90's lately and will be that way until late October. I was always under the impression that heat soak really only gets to you on your second hard pull and on. Negative. I mean...it wasn't 'horrible'...but I could definitely tell I was missing at least what I had gained from the 6 turns of the thimble. Kinda bummed.<p>So... I'm still out of work for another couple of months most likely, and I'd rather not part with $500 for a Phmic... what if I took an old windshield washer sprayer and had it spraying on the existing intercooler via a button so I could manually spray it? Would I be wasting time? Inviting a crack in the intercooler? I know evos and such do this, but they always already have big old front mounts...so I'm not sure if it would be worth the effort.<p>Either way...thanks for your input.<p>-Mag
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I think thats basically what the aquamist system does? If so, should be fine, but I havent looked into the details of it<p>Sounds like an easy mod tho, good idea if its viable.
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Aquamist does much more than that.<p>Spraying different liquid against the stock setup will most likely be a lot of work with very little benefit. Drop the cash on the real deal and be done with it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
Aquamist does much more than that.<p>Spraying different liquid against the stock setup will most likely be a lot of work with very little benefit. Drop the cash on the real deal and be done with it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
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Aquamist sprays into the air that is going into the engine. <p>edit: IMO, it is not worth it to rig up the sprayer onto the intercooler. Just save up, maybe look for a used Aquamist system. Probably the most cost efficient solution to the heat soak we have here in Florida.
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I would think it would be down to the cooling power you think you can get from just spraying the outside of the intercooler with warm water. That reservoir is in the same hot engine bay. If you think you could dramatically reduce the temp of the intercooler hardware enough to then cool off the intake charge enough to realize less power loss, then go for it. All you have to do is re-route the nozzles and hoses to try, use your built in washer sprayer (the wipers going back n forth, hmm) on the stalk, and see what happens.
I would think it would be down to the cooling power you think you can get from just spraying the outside of the intercooler with warm water. That reservoir is in the same hot engine bay. If you think you could dramatically reduce the temp of the intercooler hardware enough to then cool off the intake charge enough to realize less power loss, then go for it. All you have to do is re-route the nozzles and hoses to try, use your built in washer sprayer (the wipers going back n forth, hmm) on the stalk, and see what happens.
It's not the temperature of the water that will cool off the intercooler, it's the heat exchange as the water evaporates from the intercooler. (the reason alcohol feels much colder on your skin then water, because it evaporates faster)
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why not just look at the big picture, save your money, and just leave it alone? Does occasional heat soak make that big of a deal that it's worth spending savings on? I'm just saying....
why not just look at the big picture, save your money, and just leave it alone? Does occasional heat soak make that big of a deal that it's worth spending savings on? I'm just saying....
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You need one of these!!<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.pbase.com/jh2007/image/112523020.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>Nothing like a Squeeze Breeze to fix heat soak.
You need one of these!!<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.pbase.com/jh2007/image/112523020.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>Nothing like a Squeeze Breeze to fix heat soak.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>850arrrsaylikepirate</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You need one of these!!<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.pbase.com/jh2007/image/112523020.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>Nothing like a Squeeze Breeze to fix heat soak.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH.<p>I got mad at heat soak once.<p>We got into a fight and I cheated on her cousin FMIC and then a few weeks later her sister Aquamist.<p>Heatsoak doesn't call me anymore. But I don't miss that b*tch. <p>But her cousin FMIC, you can't get any better than her. So smooth, and always ready to .............................. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>850arrrsaylikepirate</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You need one of these!!<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.pbase.com/jh2007/image/112523020.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>Nothing like a Squeeze Breeze to fix heat soak.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH.<p>I got mad at heat soak once.<p>We got into a fight and I cheated on her cousin FMIC and then a few weeks later her sister Aquamist.<p>Heatsoak doesn't call me anymore. But I don't miss that b*tch. <p>But her cousin FMIC, you can't get any better than her. So smooth, and always ready to .............................. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>T5 for Life</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why not just look at the big picture, save your money, and just leave it alone? Does occasional heat soak make that big of a deal that it's worth spending savings on? I'm just saying....</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Occasional heat soak? How about for about 9 months out of the year (in Florida) feeling like your turbo is coated in molasses. LOL.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>T5 for Life</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why not just look at the big picture, save your money, and just leave it alone? Does occasional heat soak make that big of a deal that it's worth spending savings on? I'm just saying....</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Occasional heat soak? How about for about 9 months out of the year (in Florida) feeling like your turbo is coated in molasses. LOL.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>kmagnuss</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's not the temperature of the water that will cool off the intercooler, it's the heat exchange as the water evaporates from the intercooler. (the reason alcohol feels much colder on your skin then water, because it evaporates faster)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ok, that makes sense. But do you think the heat-exchange will be enough to notice a difference? If so, it would be worth trying (your idea doesn't sound too complicated or costly).
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>kmagnuss</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's not the temperature of the water that will cool off the intercooler, it's the heat exchange as the water evaporates from the intercooler. (the reason alcohol feels much colder on your skin then water, because it evaporates faster)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ok, that makes sense. But do you think the heat-exchange will be enough to notice a difference? If so, it would be worth trying (your idea doesn't sound too complicated or costly).
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Fair enough. I still think it's not worth blowing savings on. but that' just me...
Fair enough. I still think it's not worth blowing savings on. but that' just me...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>T5 for Life</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fair enough. I still think it's not worth blowing savings on. but that' just me...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>FMICs don't just get rid of heat soak, they can also add HP over stock figures <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>T5 for Life</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fair enough. I still think it's not worth blowing savings on. but that' just me...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>FMICs don't just get rid of heat soak, they can also add HP over stock figures <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
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I understand that, but you guys are missing my point. Re-read his post and see why he doesn't want to spend the $$ on a FMIC.<p>I say go ahead and try to be creative, but the costs of that can rise as you experiment more and more. And before you know it, you've spent the time and money it would've taken to install a FMIC.
I understand that, but you guys are missing my point. Re-read his post and see why he doesn't want to spend the $$ on a FMIC.<p>I say go ahead and try to be creative, but the costs of that can rise as you experiment more and more. And before you know it, you've spent the time and money it would've taken to install a FMIC.
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<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> to Tony's advice. <p>If money is tight, pull the weatherstripping at the cowl, maybe add a washer to lift the back of the bonnet a bit, and deal with whatever heat-soak remains. <p>IMO, there's really only <i>one</i> way to address heat soak correctly and permanently, and that way starts with a Ph and ends in uzzzz. Aquamist is good, yes, but it uses consumables and adds another system to what is, basically, and underperforming delivered system. I say either do the free stuff and deal with the rest, or go PhMic and be done with heat soak forever.
<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> to Tony's advice. <p>If money is tight, pull the weatherstripping at the cowl, maybe add a washer to lift the back of the bonnet a bit, and deal with whatever heat-soak remains. <p>IMO, there's really only <i>one</i> way to address heat soak correctly and permanently, and that way starts with a Ph and ends in uzzzz. Aquamist is good, yes, but it uses consumables and adds another system to what is, basically, and underperforming delivered system. I say either do the free stuff and deal with the rest, or go PhMic and be done with heat soak forever.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>T5 for Life</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I understand that, but you guys are missing my point. Re-read his post and see why he doesn't want to spend the $$ on a FMIC.<p>I say go ahead and try to be creative, but the costs of that can rise as you experiment more and more. And before you know it, you've spent the time and money it would've taken to install a FMIC.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I hear you Tony and I agree. I didn't make my own point clear, which was do nothing. Wait until he gets a job next year or whatever and then do an FMIC...basically, just go for the FMIC whenever possible. Anything else just toss that $$ into the FMIC pool.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>T5 for Life</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I understand that, but you guys are missing my point. Re-read his post and see why he doesn't want to spend the $$ on a FMIC.<p>I say go ahead and try to be creative, but the costs of that can rise as you experiment more and more. And before you know it, you've spent the time and money it would've taken to install a FMIC.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I hear you Tony and I agree. I didn't make my own point clear, which was do nothing. Wait until he gets a job next year or whatever and then do an FMIC...basically, just go for the FMIC whenever possible. Anything else just toss that $$ into the FMIC pool.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>S60R1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just go for the FMIC whenever possible. Anything else just toss that $$ into the FMIC pool.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>one of the best mods ever....cannot go wrong with this in terms of performance. i cant imagine the amount of heat soak down south, but I had my fair share of it which prompted me to make the fmic my first mod....<p>as China said....much smoother and you will notice a difference.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>S60R1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just go for the FMIC whenever possible. Anything else just toss that $$ into the FMIC pool.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>one of the best mods ever....cannot go wrong with this in terms of performance. i cant imagine the amount of heat soak down south, but I had my fair share of it which prompted me to make the fmic my first mod....<p>as China said....much smoother and you will notice a difference.
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