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Hi <br>I notice a whining in my drive train. I had a local mechanic look at car, but twice we took the car for a drive and could not hear the noise. Noticed nothing underneath on a lift - no oil leaks etc.<p>Whine increased pitch with increase in speed and got louder in past two days.<p>Today while joining traffic from a junction, under hard acceleration to right the wheels went over some "cats eyes" in the road and I heard a big bang, resulting in no AWD. It may also be of note that while reversing out of a parking space 5 mins earlier I heard a single small metallic bang - a bit like gears snagging.<p>Anyway, I was hoping for some pointers - angle gear of rear diff - I think the bigger bang came from the back. I can also hear a faint tapping in the back end when moving very slowly.<p>Sean D
 

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I'm guessing your collar / sleeve gear went kaput. Are you in warranty?
 

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Re: Heard a bang and no more AWD - Rear Diff or angle gear ? (jstro)

Angle gear failure.<p>Time for a shameless Megan Fox pic<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.pbase.com/jh2007/image/114556978/original.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Heard a bang and no more AWD - Rear Diff or angle gear ? (850arrrsaylikepirate)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>850arrrsaylikepirate</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Angle gear failure.<p>Time for a shameless Megan Fox pic<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.pbase.com/jh2007/image/114556978/original.jpg" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Pirate you know how to brighten up a day!
 

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Re: Heard a bang and no more AWD - Rear Diff or angle gear ? (850arrrsaylikepirate)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>850arrrsaylikepirate</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Angle gear failure.<p>Time for a shameless Megan Fox pic<br> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I didn't even get a picture for my bumper fail =(
 

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Re: Heard a bang and no more AWD - Rear Diff or angle gear ? (850arrrsaylikepirate)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>850arrrsaylikepirate</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Angle gear failure.<p>Time for a shameless Megan Fox pic<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Classic. Too funny! <p>As for the angle gear/diff...when my AG went, it was stealth...no clue until I got stuck in snow. APparently others have had a similar experience...that said, I think the AG is the weakest (read: cheesiest <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0"> ) link in these cars, so I'd say it's toast. Hope you have warranty, or it's gonna hurt <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Heard a bang and no more AWD - Rear Diff or angle gear ? (icebiker)

Mine made a bang when it went one snowy day last winter. Your best bet is to take care of it asap.
 

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Re: Heard a bang and no more AWD - Rear Diff or angle gear ? (icebiker)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>icebiker</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hope you have warranty, or it's gonna hurt <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>so about how bad does it hurt? my warranty is about to expire and i don't think i have the money laying around to purchase the extended warranty <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Heard a bang and no more AWD - Rear Diff or angle gear ? (The S60R Dream)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>The S60R Dream</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>so about how bad does it hurt? my warranty is about to expire and i don't think i have the money laying around to purchase the extended warranty <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>A few grand....<p>The warranty really will save you on this one.
 

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Re: Heard a bang and no more AWD - Rear Diff or angle gear ? (chinaonnitrous1)

Hi<p>Car is 6 months out of Manufacturers Warranty, but I had read about so many failures of the angle gear that I bought an aftermaket warranty a few months back.<p>What I dont understand is why Volvo is not covering a clearly poorly designed / defective part - or why a class action has not been taken against them on this issue.<p>Anyway back to the car....is is driving fine in FWD but torque steer and lack of traction is a bi*ch.<p>Thx.
 

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If it in fact is bad pick up a used one and throw it in yourself if you're tight on$$.<p>If you aren't capable find an indie who is, and provide them the parts.
 

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Re: Heard a bang and no more AWD - Rear Diff or angle gear ? (sdowdeng)

A question for kolks who have had this failure:<br>- Is it considered a wear and tear issue or a catastrophic failure.<p>I noticed in the fine print of the warranty that any wear and tear related failure within the first 90 days is not covered?<p>Regards
 

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Re: Heard a bang and no more AWD - Rear Diff or angle gear ? (sdowdeng)

usually a <B>bang</B> indicates a parking brake failure -- <p>how do you know you lost rear wheel drive ?
 

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Re: Heard a bang and no more AWD - Rear Diff or angle gear ? (sdowdeng)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>sdowdeng</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi<p>Car is 6 months out of Manufacturers Warranty, but I had read about so many failures of the angle gear that I bought an aftermaket warranty a few months back.<p>What I dont understand is why Volvo is not covering a clearly poorly designed / defective part - or why a class action has not been taken against them on this issue.<p>Anyway back to the car....is is driving fine in FWD but torque steer and lack of traction is a bi*ch.<p>Thx.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Had mine replaced 2 weeks ago under warranty at 44K miles. No failure, but terrible noise which was a bad bearing inside. Cost showed to be $2,100 installed. They put me in a new S60 for 3 days, as the angle gear had to be ordered. Extended warranty on these cars is paramount. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Heard a bang and no more AWD - Rear Diff or angle gear ? (petew)

"usually a bang indicates a parking brake failure -- <br>how do you know you lost rear wheel drive ?"<p>Traction control trying to keep wheels from spinning on 1st, 2nd, 3rd.<p>With traction off get front wheel spin. There is definately no power going to back.<p>
 

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Re: Heard a bang and no more AWD - Rear Diff or angle gear ? (chinaonnitrous1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>chinaonnitrous1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>A few grand....<p>The warranty really will save you on this one.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>A VIP warranty from Volvo is like $3k plus these days.
 

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Re: Heard a bang and no more AWD - Rear Diff or angle gear ? (chinaonnitrous1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>chinaonnitrous1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I didn't even get a picture for my bumper fail =(</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sorry, it was like 1 in the am, when you tore it up. You may want to check that thread again <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Heard a bang and no more AWD - Rear Diff or angle gear ? (Needsdecaf)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>A VIP warranty from Volvo is like $3k plus these days. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yup and mine is up in Jan and I think I am going to sell my S60R.. so anyone want one well maintained and low miles (30k) keep me in mind this Jan!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Heard a bang and no more AWD - Rear Diff or angle gear ? (sdowdeng)

The angle gear was replaced. <br>I looked at the parts and they were very worn.<br>The aftermarket warranty had a 90 day wear and tear clause (I was on day 54) - so they would not cover the fix.<p>Total cost was 1988 euro - inc 4 hours labor. New angle gear was labeled "exchange".<p>Sean<br>
 
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