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Re: Headrest (Reno R)

Not sure but I wouldn't advise it. I know the headrest is pretty big and obstructs the view of those in the rear but having been in a recent accident I can say the headrest definately prevented some serious whiplash. If you take it off and get rear-ended or something what's going to keep your head from snapping back?
 

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Re: Headrest (Reno R)

There are release buttons beneath the leather...<p>Go into the back seat and they are located right below the top indent in the back release... Just push and feel around for the two buttons...
 

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Re: Headrest (mlieras)

there are two buttons beneath the seat padding you push, but I have never been successful in pulling the HR up after pushing the buttons.<br>
 

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Re: Headrest (JimLill)

You have to push in on the buttons AND lift at the same time. Can't do one and then the other.
 

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Re: Headrest (dugums)

<IMG SRC="http://static.flickr.com/60/217140492_ed60ff4102.jpg?v=0" BORDER="0"> <p>This shows the approximate area where the buttons are located...<p>Lee is right, you have to keep them pressed in as you are lifting the headrest... It usually takes a good deal of pressure to get the puttons pressed in...<p>
 

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Re: Headrest (mlieras)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mlieras</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not sure but I wouldn't advise it. I know the headrest is pretty big and obstructs the view of those in the rear but having been in a recent accident I can say the headrest definately prevented some serious whiplash. If you take it off and get rear-ended or something what's going to keep your head from snapping back?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Somehow I don't think that's what the OP is intending. At first I wanted to remove them and replace them with "normal" headrests, which don't, at the "natural" position", touch the back of your head (I found that annoying at first, no matter how you sat, it was always touching)... however after awhile I got used to them, and noticed it is very comfortable sitting in that natural driving position while having your head gently supported.<p>When Volvo says they have the "most advanced whiplash protection system", is the ergonomics of the front headrests what they are talking about? It makes sense, as in that natural driving position with normal headrests your head usually isn't touching the headrest, and in a Volvo it does, preventing the distance your head must travel (albeit only 1" or so) before you get proper neck/head support, I'm sure it makes a difference.
 

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Re: Headrest (dugums)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>dugums</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <IMG SRC="http://static.flickr.com/60/217140492_ed60ff4102.jpg?v=0" BORDER="0"> <p>This shows the approximate area where the buttons are located...<p>Lee is right, you have to keep them pressed in as you are lifting the headrest... It usually takes a good deal of pressure to get the puttons pressed in...<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Very good pic of the release spots. Just keep feeling for two spring loaded (light load) buttons. I got both mine out yesterday on my own for a Heico dvd install in my S80.<p>I found that if you release one side and pull up slightly on that side of the headrest you can release one side at a time. Makes it easier if you're doing it alone. <p>Just be careful not to press too hard on the release tabs, they can break. I was told they are cheap to replace, BUT a pain to get to unless you like taking seat covers off. <p>Tim <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Headrest (liverichly)

Volvo's system utilizes the ergonomic design of the seats along with a pressure-sensitive hinge that allows the entire seat back to travel backwards to absorb impact enery in a rear impact.<p>In Volvo's studies, they found that virtually all headrests are too far away from the head to provide any effective whiplash protection in a rear impact. So that's why Volvo's headrests are non-adjustable, and very close to the head.<p>If you think about it, the further your head is away from the headrest, the more room your head has to "accelerate" before that movement is stopped by the headrest. So the smaller that distance, the lower the accelleration, and the less chance of injury.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>liverichly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Somehow I don't think that's what the OP is intending. At first I wanted to remove them and replace them with "normal" headrests, which don't, at the "natural" position", touch the back of your head (I found that annoying at first, no matter how you sat, it was always touching)... however after awhile I got used to them, and noticed it is very comfortable sitting in that natural driving position while having your head gently supported.<p>When Volvo says they have the "most advanced whiplash protection system", is the ergonomics of the front headrests what they are talking about? It makes sense, as in that natural driving position with normal headrests your head usually isn't touching the headrest, and in a Volvo it does, preventing the distance your head must travel (albeit only 1" or so) before you get proper neck/head support, I'm sure it makes a difference.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ah, I see. Yeah, it took a bit of time to get used to the R headrests. The headrests in my 850 have a very similar design but not as much padding so my head actually rests more in the headrest whereas in the R the headrest seems to push more against my head (if that makes sense). But, I found a seating position that allows my head to rest quite comforably in the headrest. I'm a pretty skinny guy and the R seats seem to fit my body well, almost like a glove.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>liverichly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>When Volvo says they have the "most advanced whiplash protection system", is the ergonomics of the front headrests what they are talking about? It makes sense, as in that natural driving position with normal headrests your head usually isn't touching the headrest, and in a Volvo it does, preventing the distance your head must travel (albeit only 1" or so) before you get proper neck/head support, I'm sure it makes a difference.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>A Note about WHIPS:<p>The WHIPS seat provides improved spinal support by virtue of its modified backrest characteristics and close proximity of the head restraint's position to the occupant's head. WHIPS utilizes a specially designed hinge mount that attaches the back rest to the seat bottom, which has a pre-determined rate of rearward movement in the event of certain types of rear impacts. The seatback also has a series of springs that allows the cushion to move slightly rearward upon impact, thereby helping to cradle the body within the seat. This, combined with high-mounted head restraints, help to limit the "whipping" motion of the head that often occurs during a rear-end impact.<p>
 

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Re: (Token)

WHIPS moves the backrest rearward and thus the headrest since it is attached to it. There is no linkage or anything to the headrest by itself.<p>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Token</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...So the positioning of the headrests can't have much to do with WHIPS.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>WHIPS is both passive (body and head position) and active (seatback travel from a rear-ender).<p>My post is actually a quote from Volvo itself, should have given it atribution but...<p><I>and close proximity of the head restraint's position to the occupant's head.</I> <p>-and -<p><I>combined with high-mounted head restraints, help to limit the "whipping" motion of the head that often occurs during a rear-end impact</I><p>sure seem to indicate that height, size and placement of the headrests was a large part of the updated WHIPS design goals for the P2 platforms.
 

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Re: (Reno R)

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Re: (VOLVO S70)

I've been noticing that the lower section of my driver's seat back slides back and forth rather freely on one side with up to a 3/8" to 1/2" of play. If I have a passenger in back putting forward pressure on the seatback, or I make a large adjustment in the angle of the seatback, the movement is quite noticeable when I put my weight into it or accelerate briskly. In fact, if I grasp the lower bolster and push fore and aft, the seat feels quite loose. I'd say there is closer to 1/16" or maybe 1/8" of total play in the passenger seat (feels tight), which is used only about 5-10% of the time. <p>Would someone please tell me this is abnormal for the R seat? My car only has 22.5K on the clock and the dealer tells me it is just "normal play" in the WHIPS mechanism. Arghhh... <p><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <-- headrest<p>- Tryg<p>I just received my new C&D with a writeup on the new 335i coupe (0-60 in 4.9 seconds in stock form) and hung out this evening in my friend's garage watching him detailed out his E46 M3. I'm getting pretty close to taking the plunge, WHIPS or not.
 

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Re: (RainyS60R)

I don't know the part number, but you need a seat strut... The seat strut will eliminate the play.... It's about $200 plus install.... If the car is in warranty, a GOOD dealership can get it warrantied or goodwilled....
 
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